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hello everybody welcome to quantum witch

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and tonight we have mr john ramirez here

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i want to do a quick thank you to

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anybody joining in the chat and if

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there's some links you know um in the

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description for both john and i and ways

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to support and uh yeah just thank you

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for your support i said support like 90

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times but thank you

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so tonight we have you know mr john

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ramirez and most of you will know who he

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is but if we have some random you know

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witches listening that might not know

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who he is or some random people not

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knowing who he is um john do you mind

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telling us a quick bio

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sure um i served 25 years in cia from

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1984 to 2009

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in the course of my day job which has

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nothing to do with uap's ufo's vts

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i did encounter instances where

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such phenomena

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was presented as part of my day job that

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i saw

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that the russians tracked orbs with

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their radars

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that's just one example of some of the

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high strangeness that we deal with at

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cia

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and so i had a long uh lifelong interest

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in this topic even before i joined cia

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from childhood

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and i had many experiences from

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childhood all the way to just recently

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in my adult life and so

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for me um i know a lot of people are

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interested in nuts and bolts about you

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about the craft uh they just want to

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like show me the saucers and show me the

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bodies

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but i am more about

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why are we seeing the craft

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to begin with what are these orbs all

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about what is the message that

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these visitors want to convey to us that

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might impact where we're taking the

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world because i think we do have free

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choice i don't think they push us to do

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anything

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it's our choice but they're presenting

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us

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with those choices

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and um perhaps

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a clue into if we make the wrong choice

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what could happen

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and so that is like some of the um

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nuclear missile incidents that we've

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read about that have been documented by

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robert salas at the minuteman ii silo he

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was at maelstrom you know why were these

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missiles shut down or why were the

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missiles missiles activated i think

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there's a lesson in that

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for us and so for me as i said before

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um it's not about like to use the

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analogy of the delivery truck delivering

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a package uh at your front door

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um it's one thing to be interested in

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the truck and the driver that's fine but

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they left a package

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and so is it like oh i want to know

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about the

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truck and i want to chase it down and

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talk to the driver or

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do we want to pick up the package and

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some people just want to shake the

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package and like listen to it and see

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protects or whatever but i'm more

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interested in opening the package to see

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what is the gift inside and for me uh

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experiencers

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uh others who are in that

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uh more esoterica are more interested in

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the message rather than the means of

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delivery

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and so that's where i'm at with the

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right

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yes and people are really afraid to talk

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about that you know we have the two

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camps of ufo twitter ufo world in

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general where there is the whole

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and it's kind of insulting when people

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say it we were just talking about it the

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woo

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and then we have

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the side that is nuts and bolts which is

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kind of funny because um

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[Laughter]

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sorry um a lot of people say that but at

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our last book club

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i'm sorry i keep thinking about it it

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was brought up that

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people don't report nuts and bolts on

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ufo so what the heck are you talking

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about with the nuts and bolts they're

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not even nobody said nuts and bolts like

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they've seen nuts and bolts so it's

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pretty funny that um oh my gosh why is

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it slipping me who brought it up

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my bra uh jay from experiencer group yes

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so he brought it up to um

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to one of the guys in book club and he's

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just like like blew his mind he's like

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wait like i've been saying nuts and

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bolts this whole time and

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you're right like ufos are usually

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seamless like from you right before with

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that yeah it's just it's just a human

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way of looking at

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stuff

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yeah yeah and um

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so i know jay and i were actually part

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of this uh exo studies course

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with dr sean espjorn hargens and he's

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amazing

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yes he is and there was a um a week

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where we talked about nuts and bolts

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that was actually the theme for a week

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and it's mostly about

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um the metallic craft

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and how there's a lot of interest in the

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metallic craft and where did that come

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from because i mean if you go back to

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roswell it's all about this craft

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crashed yeah and uh perhaps those nuts

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and bolts weren't tight enough they're

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causing right to me it's unusual you

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know like if it's supposed to be this

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exotic advanced propulsion technology

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using anti-gravity

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why the hell did it crash

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you know i mean that's something that uh

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like human-built airplanes do and i

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don't know right that's a clue into what

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roswell really was about

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or not um i leave that up to folks with

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ndas that know about exactly what

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roswell's about

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yeah there's a lot of speculation for

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sure a lot of speculation and to preface

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that

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with anything to do with this at all it

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just came up as part of my day job

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and so those with ndas they know more

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about what happened

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but they're not at liberty to discuss it

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all right fortunately for me i refused

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the ndas about anything to do with this

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when it was offered to me

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i just did not want to go there because

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why would i need to know

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in a classified sense what i already

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know personally what i've experienced

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personally so those of us who are

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experiencers

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we almost already know

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what's behind the scenes

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the things that the government can't

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talk about

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and that is the experience part of it

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that is part of everything so if you

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just deal with like craft and bodies

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you're just looking at a small sliver of

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that

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magnificent spectrum known as the

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phenomenon right and i think jim simivan

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recently when he appeared on coast to

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coast and i was the second guest he

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talked about his experiences

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and wasn't that an amazing discussion he

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had with george knapp another ci officer

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saying

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i'm going to talk about my experiences

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that's i think that's where it should go

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that conversation because once we add

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the experiences

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to what we see as craft or orbs or these

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unusual things in the sky we get a

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fuller understanding of what really is

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going on and perhaps a clue into why the

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government can't talk about it

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because can you imagine

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any president getting up on the podium

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and say

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oh you know they're visiting us and um

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people have experiences in government

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you know and we have experiences about

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being taken aboard craft and

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all of that that goes on with that i

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mean that's just uh a bridge too far

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yes and

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they even mention like the biological

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effects right in some of the language so

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we know that people

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have

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been physically affected by this so

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and then we have gary nolan doing his

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research and he has a lot of information

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about that too so we can't ignore it for

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much longer

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and right now everybody's sticking with

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military because it's easier to document

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like you were in this job position you

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needed this sort of vetting or clearance

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so you're more

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for the world you're more

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easy to believe or you're more credible

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and then there's the rest of us that

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just uh

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got our minds blown at the age of four

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or five and we're just like

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we don't really need too much but it

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would be nice for people that do need it

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that are experiencers to have that um

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you know that hey like this this did

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happen you're not crazy um even though

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you know you're not crazy you still feel

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crazy sometimes because we just you just

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said you know it's not really

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um when we were talking before we came

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on you were saying this isn't really

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like something you talk around the

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dinner table and i was like yeah not at

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playground with other moms either so

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it's like

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people are like so this crock pot recipe

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is great this is a this is a sheet pan

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recipe and i'm like hey how about them

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ufos like

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the world's like an old movie where like

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the the record goes you know

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and everybody looks at you so um

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yeah you brought up a good point too

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and you could basically said you know um

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how can we we might not even be able to

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understand the what without the who

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right so

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um we might and this has been talked

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about by whistleblowers and people that

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supposedly worked kind of like with

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these craft that were these crash

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retrieval materials you're like well we

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have it we can't figure out what it does

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completely

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or you know um you might need to be

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linked with a certain consciousness to

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understand how it works

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another thing that kind of blows my mind

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is people are expecting like these weird

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um like on like uh elements that we've

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never seen but

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you know it could be the elements and

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you know in different isotopes or

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different ratios or mixtures is what

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people are starting to notice but that's

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kind of like to me kind of bothers me

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but like oh well it was just a piece of

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aluminum in the end

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i'm like yeah but like did you do um you

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know did you measure the spectrum did

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you put it you know you know did you

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measure the isotope rates and all that

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stuff so

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a lot of people are doing that now and i

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know people have been doing it for a

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long time but people are just starting

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to talk about it finally but let's dive

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into the experiences because i think

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that a lot of people have asked you a

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lot of like you know technical questions

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and i do think that um your slideshow

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that you did

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with project unity was super cool um

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i've watched it a couple times and you

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had mentioned that and nothing i'm

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saying that nothing that you're saying

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is uh classified

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so that's very interesting and

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um but then you're talking from an

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experiencer standpoint that kind of

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ended up in a position where you were

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able to observe more about the

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phenomenon whether you intended that or

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not something intended it for you

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whether it be you know people talk about

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soul contracts or fate or destiny or

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divine planning so

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you had your first experience when you

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were five

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right well yes um actually uh

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not an experience but the first message

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i got was at age four

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um when i looked through my first

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telescope

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uh seeing the stars and the moons and

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maybe some of those stars were actually

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planets

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i felt an affinity toward what was

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seeing that

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this was where i came from and even at

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that young age

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it was a feeling that uh it belonged out

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there not on earth and that perhaps

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i got left behind on earth

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and

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so

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even though i had a earthly family that

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my real family was out there

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and that's that was at a very young age

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of age four and isn't it amazing that

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lifelong experiencers they usually say

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it happened when i was very small yes

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and that seems to be a common age like

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and also that what you mentioned

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what you meant sorry not to interrupt

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but i want to say it before i forget

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what you mentioned about feeling like

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you're in the wrong place exactly maybe

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you're not even supposed to be in a body

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at some point so but yes go on so you um

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you had your first uh

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when you looked through this telescope

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yes and so the subsequent experience to

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that was

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um

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when

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um i had

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i guess it was a dream but it was a

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recurring dream

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of being led into a house or in a

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medical examination

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um

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and this could have been a what's known

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as a cover experience that for me to

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process it it had to be

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like um

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a woman who led me to this house and a

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doctor and a nurse who were very kind

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and wanted to examine me

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and this was a recurring kind of

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of dream

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where sometimes it was on the first

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floor sometimes on the second floor but

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in each time

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they assured me that

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they meant no harm that you're fine we

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just want to examine you

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and i remember the examination it wasn't

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any kind of intrusive examination that i

371
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remember it's mostly we just want to see

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how you're doing you know

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um and i remember

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mostly it was like a traditional like

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cursory examination of you know when you

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go to the doctor um office uh there's

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usually someone

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perhaps a nurse nurse practitioner rn

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would take your blood pressure or listen

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to your heart it was that type of

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experience nothing intrusive nothing

382
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scary and being dressed again and being

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let out of the house

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now when i asked my mom about this she

385
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said no there's never been any time

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where i

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took you to any kind of doctor like that

388
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especially the house i described which

389
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was like the kind of houses that um i

390
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remember when i was very small

391
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i'll call them victorian style houses

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you know a-frame with a turret on one

393
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side yeah but in the town i love that

394
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most houses by the way yeah i do too and

395
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so you know put it in context um

396
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you know at that age i was like like

397
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five or s i guess i was six years old

398
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and that's like 1959 for me

399
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and so it's conceivable at 1959 there

400
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were houses built like at the turn of

401
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the century in the 1900s that had that

402
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style and so that was the style of house

403
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that i associated with and we lived in

404
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an older house like that which was back

405
00:14:26,389 --> 00:14:23,360
then not that old

406
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you packed 50 years from

407
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2022

408
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and you get a house in the 70s

409
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right basically so it's not like really

410
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old what part of the country was this if

411
00:14:39,350 --> 00:14:37,440
you don't mind this is uh petersburg

412
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virginia oh okay yeah there's some

413
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gorgeous houses

414
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south of richmond no arizona doesn't

415
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have a lot of houses like that so no

416
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it wouldn't it wouldn't have

417
00:14:51,030 --> 00:14:48,800
the heat out here

418
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those houses were right not good for

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long

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and

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before that i should say before that it

422
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was when i was living with my aunt and

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uncle when my mother was still in japan

424
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she was learning english and she was

425
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going to join us later but i lived with

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my aunt and uncle and that's when i saw

427
00:15:10,949 --> 00:15:07,760
my first craft i guess so i'll call it

428
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that it was a silvery craft

429
00:15:16,230 --> 00:15:13,600
that wasn't saucer shape

430
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but it was more oblong

431
00:15:22,550 --> 00:15:20,079
and um it's more like uh

432
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not exactly a football but i would say

433
00:15:26,870 --> 00:15:24,480
like a like a rugby ball if you know

434
00:15:29,269 --> 00:15:26,880
what that looks like so it wasn't so

435
00:15:32,150 --> 00:15:29,279
pointy so much at the end and narrows

436
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more like chubby in the middle yes wider

437
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and

438
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pointy at that end but i saw it rise out

439
00:15:42,230 --> 00:15:38,720
of the the tree line out in the distance

440
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with my fingers that look you know to my

441
00:15:48,629 --> 00:15:46,480
playmates and my cousins

442
00:15:50,949 --> 00:15:48,639
they didn't see it at all they did not

443
00:15:52,949 --> 00:15:50,959
see it i saw it and it drifted off and

444
00:15:54,949 --> 00:15:52,959
went away

445
00:15:58,230 --> 00:15:54,959
later when i did some research as to

446
00:16:00,710 --> 00:15:58,240
what was there uh there was a uh nike

447
00:16:02,710 --> 00:16:00,720
hercules base those are the missiles

448
00:16:04,470 --> 00:16:02,720
that protected many cities in the united

449
00:16:06,470 --> 00:16:04,480
states during the cold war

450
00:16:08,790 --> 00:16:06,480
and some of them were nuclear capable

451
00:16:10,310 --> 00:16:08,800
they had nuclear

452
00:16:13,829 --> 00:16:10,320
warheads

453
00:16:17,110 --> 00:16:15,910
russian bombers at the time which was

454
00:16:18,470 --> 00:16:17,120
the big threat

455
00:16:21,990 --> 00:16:18,480
so

456
00:16:24,389 --> 00:16:22,000
fact that you know there might have been

457
00:16:26,389 --> 00:16:24,399
nuclear weapons stored there

458
00:16:27,749 --> 00:16:26,399
and these nuclear-tipped missiles

459
00:16:29,269 --> 00:16:27,759
that

460
00:16:32,710 --> 00:16:29,279
attracted these

461
00:16:34,949 --> 00:16:32,720
uh this particular craft down

462
00:16:37,910 --> 00:16:34,959
but then i had the the house experience

463
00:16:40,470 --> 00:16:37,920
and then going to a bookstore

464
00:16:42,389 --> 00:16:40,480
out of five and dying which back then i

465
00:16:44,230 --> 00:16:42,399
guess we call them dollar stores now

466
00:16:45,110 --> 00:16:44,240
yeah inflation

467
00:16:46,949 --> 00:16:45,120
um

468
00:16:49,590 --> 00:16:46,959
the five and dime

469
00:16:51,110 --> 00:16:49,600
i saw a book with the illustration of

470
00:16:52,069 --> 00:16:51,120
two primitive humans and the woman

471
00:16:54,150 --> 00:16:52,079
holding

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00:16:57,269 --> 00:16:54,160
a modern looking baby up in the sky and

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00:17:00,069 --> 00:16:57,279
it's also beaming lights oh i love it

474
00:17:02,870 --> 00:17:00,079
down there down toward these two

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00:17:05,350 --> 00:17:02,880
uh primitive human parents and again

476
00:17:06,390 --> 00:17:05,360
there was a message the message was

477
00:17:08,069 --> 00:17:06,400
um

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00:17:10,470 --> 00:17:08,079
this is who you are this is where you

479
00:17:12,870 --> 00:17:10,480
came from we made you

480
00:17:13,909 --> 00:17:12,880
yeah oh my gosh that was so like

481
00:17:15,829 --> 00:17:13,919
profound

482
00:17:16,870 --> 00:17:15,839
it gives me shivers um just to think

483
00:17:18,390 --> 00:17:16,880
about it

484
00:17:20,549 --> 00:17:18,400
yeah me too i kind of got like this

485
00:17:23,029 --> 00:17:20,559
weird like in my face like a flush in my

486
00:17:25,270 --> 00:17:23,039
face and i wanted this book my parents

487
00:17:27,750 --> 00:17:25,280
um you know they may hesitate to buy me

488
00:17:29,510 --> 00:17:27,760
toys but if i wanted a book no

489
00:17:30,870 --> 00:17:29,520
hesitation whatsoever that's how my

490
00:17:33,669 --> 00:17:30,880
grandma was so

491
00:17:35,510 --> 00:17:33,679
yeah yeah and but the book disappeared

492
00:17:38,230 --> 00:17:35,520
when my mom came around it wasn't more

493
00:17:40,230 --> 00:17:38,240
than a few minutes i got my mom and say

494
00:17:41,750 --> 00:17:40,240
i want this book and it's gone and i

495
00:17:42,789 --> 00:17:41,760
left it in a place where i knew i could

496
00:17:44,710 --> 00:17:42,799
find it

497
00:17:46,549 --> 00:17:44,720
yeah and there weren't that many people

498
00:17:48,630 --> 00:17:46,559
there rummaging through the books you

499
00:17:50,390 --> 00:17:48,640
know i mean none that i can remember but

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00:17:52,710 --> 00:17:50,400
it was gone

501
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and from there i had more of the

502
00:17:57,510 --> 00:17:56,160
traditional what i call traditional but

503
00:18:00,310 --> 00:17:57,520
it's not experiences were still

504
00:18:02,870 --> 00:18:00,320
considered unconventional but for me it

505
00:18:05,430 --> 00:18:02,880
was like being underground and being led

506
00:18:07,350 --> 00:18:05,440
underground in some kind of cave setting

507
00:18:08,630 --> 00:18:07,360
by smaller beings i guess you can call

508
00:18:10,549 --> 00:18:08,640
them greys but they didn't have the

509
00:18:11,430 --> 00:18:10,559
large almond-shaped eyes they had round

510
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eyes

511
00:18:15,590 --> 00:18:13,039
and they were leading me down and i

512
00:18:17,510 --> 00:18:15,600
wanted to get away but they you know

513
00:18:19,430 --> 00:18:17,520
said don't worry we won't hurt you you

514
00:18:21,590 --> 00:18:19,440
know you need to come with us

515
00:18:23,750 --> 00:18:21,600
and leading me through this cave

516
00:18:26,230 --> 00:18:23,760
um

517
00:18:28,070 --> 00:18:26,240
this the other experience i had

518
00:18:29,190 --> 00:18:28,080
growing up and now i'm becoming a

519
00:18:30,310 --> 00:18:29,200
teenager

520
00:18:31,990 --> 00:18:30,320
um

521
00:18:36,630 --> 00:18:32,000
was

522
00:18:38,870 --> 00:18:36,640
obsessed with sunflowers

523
00:18:40,470 --> 00:18:38,880
i said i need to plant sunflower seeds

524
00:18:42,390 --> 00:18:40,480
now i got my parents to get me some

525
00:18:43,990 --> 00:18:42,400
sunflower seeds to plant

526
00:18:46,150 --> 00:18:44,000
and i planted them outside my bedroom

527
00:18:48,789 --> 00:18:46,160
door and these sunflowers eventually you

528
00:18:49,590 --> 00:18:48,799
know seeds grew into flowers

529
00:18:51,909 --> 00:18:49,600
um

530
00:18:53,830 --> 00:18:51,919
and the reason why is i felt like they

531
00:18:54,950 --> 00:18:53,840
need to find me they may not be able to

532
00:18:59,110 --> 00:18:54,960
find me

533
00:19:01,110 --> 00:18:59,120
can they they can take me home

534
00:19:03,270 --> 00:19:01,120
and it's not that you know

535
00:19:05,190 --> 00:19:03,280
a lot of skeptics say oh that's because

536
00:19:06,549 --> 00:19:05,200
you had a terrible childhood and just

537
00:19:09,270 --> 00:19:06,559
just a

538
00:19:10,549 --> 00:19:09,280
a way for you to cover up your terrible

539
00:19:11,990 --> 00:19:10,559
childhood that you want to get away it

540
00:19:14,789 --> 00:19:12,000
was nothing like that

541
00:19:17,830 --> 00:19:14,799
i grew up in a very loving family

542
00:19:19,909 --> 00:19:17,840
and so it was none of that family trauma

543
00:19:22,870 --> 00:19:19,919
going on whatsoever

544
00:19:25,669 --> 00:19:22,880
um i just felt this need to

545
00:19:27,990 --> 00:19:25,679
have them come for me and sure enough

546
00:19:30,310 --> 00:19:28,000
one night they came for me i remember

547
00:19:32,549 --> 00:19:30,320
these arms grabbing me out of my bed

548
00:19:34,950 --> 00:19:32,559
went somehow through

549
00:19:36,630 --> 00:19:34,960
the screen window and up into this craft

550
00:19:39,909 --> 00:19:36,640
where i was led by another being that

551
00:19:42,549 --> 00:19:39,919
was taller and uh

552
00:19:44,549 --> 00:19:42,559
carried in this being's arms

553
00:19:47,270 --> 00:19:44,559
and seeing the

554
00:19:49,350 --> 00:19:47,280
the the walls of this craft turned

555
00:19:51,350 --> 00:19:49,360
coincident with the way we were walking

556
00:19:54,630 --> 00:19:51,360
in a circular fashion so i know it was

557
00:19:57,350 --> 00:19:54,640
like more like a salsa shape and being

558
00:19:59,909 --> 00:19:57,360
placed on an examining table and i have

559
00:20:02,630 --> 00:19:59,919
no memory of the examination

560
00:20:05,110 --> 00:20:02,640
but the following morning i had marks

561
00:20:06,390 --> 00:20:05,120
markings on the lower part of my body in

562
00:20:07,270 --> 00:20:06,400
the groin area

563
00:20:09,909 --> 00:20:07,280
so

564
00:20:11,830 --> 00:20:09,919
what that might have been i don't know

565
00:20:13,110 --> 00:20:11,840
there have been other experiences who've

566
00:20:15,669 --> 00:20:13,120
said that

567
00:20:19,190 --> 00:20:15,679
genetic material was taken from them

568
00:20:22,149 --> 00:20:19,200
right um and so that could have happened

569
00:20:24,390 --> 00:20:22,159
uh but i i don't know i just had that i

570
00:20:27,669 --> 00:20:24,400
guess you would call it an artifact of

571
00:20:30,470 --> 00:20:27,679
that experience physically on my body

572
00:20:32,390 --> 00:20:30,480
um but it went away so it's not like it

573
00:20:34,630 --> 00:20:32,400
was a permanent thing it was not not

574
00:20:36,149 --> 00:20:34,640
scarring or anything that was damaging

575
00:20:38,390 --> 00:20:36,159
um it just went away

576
00:20:40,070 --> 00:20:38,400
that's interesting that you say that um

577
00:20:41,830 --> 00:20:40,080
because one after one of my sleep

578
00:20:43,830 --> 00:20:41,840
paralysis experience after i had my

579
00:20:45,270 --> 00:20:43,840
first uh sighting and then seeing the

580
00:20:47,590 --> 00:20:45,280
being in my room

581
00:20:48,390 --> 00:20:47,600
um i had sleep paralysis from that point

582
00:20:49,750 --> 00:20:48,400
on

583
00:20:53,430 --> 00:20:49,760
um with uh

584
00:20:55,909 --> 00:20:53,440
angels or alien angels or demons in um

585
00:20:58,470 --> 00:20:55,919
presences um and i was catholic so that

586
00:21:00,070 --> 00:20:58,480
could have explained a lot but um almost

587
00:21:02,470 --> 00:21:00,080
like hives

588
00:21:04,149 --> 00:21:02,480
i would get these hives and

589
00:21:05,669 --> 00:21:04,159
p i o i grew up with eczema i was the

590
00:21:06,950 --> 00:21:05,679
eczema baby so there's like oh it's just

591
00:21:08,549 --> 00:21:06,960
eczema

592
00:21:09,990 --> 00:21:08,559
but they were like

593
00:21:11,190 --> 00:21:10,000
almost like you had like an allergic

594
00:21:13,029 --> 00:21:11,200
reaction

595
00:21:15,190 --> 00:21:13,039
and without would you know people get

596
00:21:16,549 --> 00:21:15,200
hives all but all over my body and they

597
00:21:19,029 --> 00:21:16,559
would just like throw me in an oatmeal

598
00:21:21,270 --> 00:21:19,039
bath and be like oh good luck

599
00:21:23,270 --> 00:21:21,280
but it was after these um

600
00:21:25,750 --> 00:21:23,280
these it would be after a sleep

601
00:21:26,870 --> 00:21:25,760
paralysis that had grays in it or

602
00:21:28,070 --> 00:21:26,880
something so it's interesting that you

603
00:21:30,630 --> 00:21:28,080
mentioned that because it's something

604
00:21:31,909 --> 00:21:30,640
that i don't tell people because again

605
00:21:34,390 --> 00:21:31,919
they're like oh well it's just a rash

606
00:21:36,870 --> 00:21:34,400
you know what i mean right yes

607
00:21:45,830 --> 00:21:37,590
the

608
00:21:47,750 --> 00:21:45,840
have traumatic experiences and for me

609
00:21:49,590 --> 00:21:47,760
it's like

610
00:21:51,909 --> 00:21:49,600
i wouldn't say no big deal i mean it was

611
00:21:54,710 --> 00:21:51,919
profound for me to have the experiences

612
00:21:56,630 --> 00:21:54,720
i've had but they were not as malevolent

613
00:21:58,789 --> 00:21:56,640
as what other people have experienced

614
00:22:01,350 --> 00:21:58,799
they're they're not exactly benevolent

615
00:22:03,590 --> 00:22:01,360
it just happened they weren't harmful to

616
00:22:07,270 --> 00:22:03,600
me in the long run

617
00:22:09,510 --> 00:22:08,549
following

618
00:22:10,950 --> 00:22:09,520
that

619
00:22:13,430 --> 00:22:10,960
experience

620
00:22:15,270 --> 00:22:13,440
i've had a dream

621
00:22:17,750 --> 00:22:15,280
that

622
00:22:20,149 --> 00:22:17,760
i was in a place

623
00:22:21,909 --> 00:22:20,159
of light beings

624
00:22:24,470 --> 00:22:21,919
there were like beings everywhere i was

625
00:22:27,350 --> 00:22:24,480
a light being and i really loved where i

626
00:22:29,590 --> 00:22:27,360
was at i felt like i was home and this

627
00:22:31,510 --> 00:22:29,600
is where i belong i finally made it this

628
00:22:33,110 --> 00:22:31,520
is where i'm supposed to be

629
00:22:35,590 --> 00:22:33,120
but then a voice

630
00:22:36,710 --> 00:22:35,600
over my shoulder i think it was my

631
00:22:38,470 --> 00:22:36,720
left side

632
00:22:39,909 --> 00:22:38,480
uh said to me

633
00:22:41,430 --> 00:22:39,919
it's time for you to go back because you

634
00:22:43,350 --> 00:22:41,440
have work to do

635
00:22:45,190 --> 00:22:43,360
you haven't finished your work

636
00:22:46,950 --> 00:22:45,200
and i said i don't want to go back so no

637
00:22:48,630 --> 00:22:46,960
you need to go back

638
00:22:50,310 --> 00:22:48,640
but you get to pick who you are going to

639
00:22:54,470 --> 00:22:50,320
be this time

640
00:22:56,789 --> 00:22:54,480
and i was i was shown like a vast plane

641
00:22:59,590 --> 00:22:56,799
of little i would call it like little

642
00:23:01,350 --> 00:22:59,600
eggs in a giant egg carton

643
00:23:04,789 --> 00:23:01,360
as far as i can see

644
00:23:05,990 --> 00:23:04,799
and it was like swirling lights in this

645
00:23:09,270 --> 00:23:06,000
these little

646
00:23:11,029 --> 00:23:09,280
uh little spheres and they and who do

647
00:23:13,190 --> 00:23:11,039
you want to be and i i looked into each

648
00:23:15,190 --> 00:23:13,200
one and saw their lives from beginning

649
00:23:17,669 --> 00:23:15,200
to end from birth to death

650
00:23:20,149 --> 00:23:17,679
and i saw one that that resonated with

651
00:23:22,630 --> 00:23:20,159
me and said this is who i want to be

652
00:23:24,950 --> 00:23:22,640
and they said okay go you have work to

653
00:23:26,310 --> 00:23:24,960
do do your work go and

654
00:23:31,669 --> 00:23:26,320
ready set go

655
00:23:34,830 --> 00:23:31,679
um remember being born

656
00:23:37,350 --> 00:23:34,840
i remember the birth experience

657
00:23:39,270 --> 00:23:37,360
and so that

658
00:23:43,430 --> 00:23:39,280
i didn't connect that for a long long

659
00:23:45,669 --> 00:23:43,440
time as to what it might have meant

660
00:23:48,149 --> 00:23:45,679
but the synchronicity there that sent

661
00:23:49,510 --> 00:23:48,159
chills up and down my spine

662
00:23:51,430 --> 00:23:49,520
um

663
00:23:53,909 --> 00:23:51,440
and i would have mentioned it we had

664
00:23:55,990 --> 00:23:53,919
more time with george knapp but

665
00:23:57,590 --> 00:23:56,000
someone called in art bell

666
00:24:00,310 --> 00:23:57,600
back in the day

667
00:24:02,310 --> 00:24:00,320
and related in uh

668
00:24:05,029 --> 00:24:02,320
open lines when anybody can call talk

669
00:24:06,549 --> 00:24:05,039
about anything yeah i remember him yeah

670
00:24:08,470 --> 00:24:06,559
a woman called my aunt used to listen to

671
00:24:09,909 --> 00:24:08,480
that late at night so she was kind of

672
00:24:11,590 --> 00:24:09,919
like one of the only people that i would

673
00:24:14,070 --> 00:24:11,600
sneak into her room

674
00:24:16,630 --> 00:24:14,080
and um because i felt like she she

675
00:24:18,950 --> 00:24:16,640
believed me with my experiences and

676
00:24:20,710 --> 00:24:18,960
um she didn't say yes or no but she

677
00:24:22,149 --> 00:24:20,720
listened very lovingly and then i

678
00:24:24,390 --> 00:24:22,159
remember sneaking into her room when i

679
00:24:25,830 --> 00:24:24,400
was like okay just don't tell you know

680
00:24:27,990 --> 00:24:25,840
you have to go back in a little bit to

681
00:24:30,070 --> 00:24:28,000
your bed and she was listening to it and

682
00:24:32,789 --> 00:24:30,080
it was the people that were calling in

683
00:24:35,269 --> 00:24:32,799
right exactly well one of those call-ins

684
00:24:37,190 --> 00:24:35,279
was a woman who related the exact

685
00:24:39,669 --> 00:24:37,200
same experience and said art i want to

686
00:24:41,990 --> 00:24:39,679
share share with you a dream i had

687
00:24:44,230 --> 00:24:42,000
and she related the voice on one's

688
00:24:47,029 --> 00:24:44,240
shoulder telling her she had work to do

689
00:24:47,990 --> 00:24:47,039
and she had to go back being shown this

690
00:24:49,909 --> 00:24:48,000
vast

691
00:24:51,350 --> 00:24:49,919
array of like

692
00:24:54,630 --> 00:24:51,360
life

693
00:25:02,950 --> 00:24:54,640
and

694
00:25:07,029 --> 00:25:05,430
my spine was tingling i mean i was just

695
00:25:09,750 --> 00:25:07,039
totally electric

696
00:25:11,110 --> 00:25:09,760
and you know trying to call in uh you

697
00:25:13,430 --> 00:25:11,120
know forget it

698
00:25:15,190 --> 00:25:13,440
yeah just you're not gonna get in i mean

699
00:25:17,430 --> 00:25:15,200
you're still so lucky

700
00:25:18,870 --> 00:25:17,440
if you get in but i i

701
00:25:21,110 --> 00:25:18,880
always wanted to reach out to her

702
00:25:21,990 --> 00:25:21,120
because she had this similar experience

703
00:25:27,990 --> 00:25:22,000
and

704
00:25:29,590 --> 00:25:28,000
twin souls yes sometimes you incarnate

705
00:25:31,909 --> 00:25:29,600
on earth

706
00:25:34,070 --> 00:25:31,919
with someone else who is your spiritual

707
00:25:36,310 --> 00:25:34,080
twin somewhere and i felt like

708
00:25:37,269 --> 00:25:36,320
she must be my spiritual twin my twin

709
00:25:39,350 --> 00:25:37,279
flame

710
00:25:40,789 --> 00:25:39,360
or twin soul

711
00:25:43,269 --> 00:25:40,799
because people misinterpret that they

712
00:25:44,950 --> 00:25:43,279
think that they're supposed to be like

713
00:25:46,390 --> 00:25:44,960
married to their twin flame or they're

714
00:25:48,390 --> 00:25:46,400
supposed to be best friends with their

715
00:25:50,070 --> 00:25:48,400
twin flame or even like give birth to

716
00:25:51,029 --> 00:25:50,080
your twin flame you know people think

717
00:25:52,310 --> 00:25:51,039
they're supposed to be of close

718
00:25:54,230 --> 00:25:52,320
proximity

719
00:25:55,909 --> 00:25:54,240
but it's actually from what i'm like

720
00:25:57,269 --> 00:25:55,919
when i'm talking to people about it like

721
00:25:58,870 --> 00:25:57,279
not on here i haven't talked about it

722
00:26:01,510 --> 00:25:58,880
yet but when i'm talking to other

723
00:26:02,710 --> 00:26:01,520
friends and in the world um

724
00:26:04,390 --> 00:26:02,720
they

725
00:26:06,470 --> 00:26:04,400
not a lot of people have their twin

726
00:26:09,029 --> 00:26:06,480
flame on earth is the same time as they

727
00:26:10,950 --> 00:26:09,039
are which is super crazy to me

728
00:26:12,549 --> 00:26:10,960
so you think she was your twin flame

729
00:26:13,909 --> 00:26:12,559
have you and you haven't you haven't

730
00:26:16,710 --> 00:26:13,919
been able to find it you've never been

731
00:26:19,510 --> 00:26:16,720
able to uh locate her i mean how would i

732
00:26:20,549 --> 00:26:19,520
it's just yeah a voice um yeah you know

733
00:26:21,990 --> 00:26:20,559
using

734
00:26:25,110 --> 00:26:22,000
a first name

735
00:26:26,870 --> 00:26:25,120
right um east of the rockies you know

736
00:26:28,390 --> 00:26:26,880
yeah first time caller like i don't know

737
00:26:30,870 --> 00:26:28,400
where she was calling even he probably

738
00:26:32,390 --> 00:26:30,880
couldn't locate him at that time yeah

739
00:26:33,510 --> 00:26:32,400
you know it was like a telephone line

740
00:26:34,630 --> 00:26:33,520
like

741
00:26:36,630 --> 00:26:34,640
yeah

742
00:26:38,470 --> 00:26:36,640
so that that

743
00:26:41,430 --> 00:26:38,480
was a profound experience that got

744
00:26:42,950 --> 00:26:41,440
linked later when i had

745
00:26:45,430 --> 00:26:42,960
uh and your audience would know who

746
00:26:49,430 --> 00:26:45,440
delores canon oh absolutely was

747
00:26:52,390 --> 00:26:49,440
and i had qhht um sessions

748
00:26:55,990 --> 00:26:52,400
and i actually in the qhht session with

749
00:26:57,990 --> 00:26:56,000
this like sorter like buried in my my

750
00:27:00,630 --> 00:26:58,000
memory

751
00:27:01,990 --> 00:27:00,640
i had the front part of that

752
00:27:03,590 --> 00:27:02,000
of me

753
00:27:06,549 --> 00:27:03,600
dying

754
00:27:08,230 --> 00:27:06,559
and then um

755
00:27:11,350 --> 00:27:08,240
seeing

756
00:27:14,149 --> 00:27:11,360
it wasn't a tunnel of darkness

757
00:27:15,990 --> 00:27:14,159
it was more like

758
00:27:17,590 --> 00:27:16,000
i would say grayness

759
00:27:21,269 --> 00:27:17,600
it wasn't completely dark it was just

760
00:27:22,549 --> 00:27:21,279
gray and a feeling of movement i had

761
00:27:25,990 --> 00:27:22,559
at my death

762
00:27:28,470 --> 00:27:26,000
and seeing um two faint

763
00:27:30,389 --> 00:27:28,480
uh light beings come

764
00:27:31,510 --> 00:27:30,399
around to the left and right to escort

765
00:27:33,430 --> 00:27:31,520
me home

766
00:27:36,230 --> 00:27:33,440
oh wow and then

767
00:27:39,430 --> 00:27:36,240
having been escorted home it was a world

768
00:27:42,389 --> 00:27:39,440
of this of these light beings

769
00:27:44,310 --> 00:27:42,399
and having um that same experience

770
00:27:45,830 --> 00:27:44,320
linking it all of a sudden oh my gosh

771
00:27:48,549 --> 00:27:45,840
you know

772
00:27:50,950 --> 00:27:48,559
that experience was the precursor

773
00:27:53,110 --> 00:27:50,960
to that dream i had as a teenager wow so

774
00:27:55,110 --> 00:27:53,120
that qhht session

775
00:27:57,830 --> 00:27:55,120
occurred as an adult

776
00:27:59,269 --> 00:27:57,840
yes that's it so that linked it together

777
00:28:00,789 --> 00:27:59,279
that's very interesting that you and

778
00:28:03,669 --> 00:28:00,799
very cool that you were able to link

779
00:28:05,190 --> 00:28:03,679
that because you had mentioned in

780
00:28:07,430 --> 00:28:05,200
um and nikki i'm going to get to your

781
00:28:09,269 --> 00:28:07,440
question in a minute but um

782
00:28:10,630 --> 00:28:09,279
you had mentioned in

783
00:28:11,990 --> 00:28:10,640
one of your interview it was when you

784
00:28:13,590 --> 00:28:12,000
did the um

785
00:28:16,950 --> 00:28:13,600
the slideshow you had mentioned that you

786
00:28:19,669 --> 00:28:16,960
know pieces of the puzzle right like so

787
00:28:21,909 --> 00:28:19,679
many people with experiences

788
00:28:23,990 --> 00:28:21,919
from minor i don't want to say minor

789
00:28:25,750 --> 00:28:24,000
experiences but experiences like i saw

790
00:28:27,909 --> 00:28:25,760
something that freaked me out i know it

791
00:28:29,350 --> 00:28:27,919
was sentient it was in the sky and that

792
00:28:30,630 --> 00:28:29,360
maybe that's the end of their experience

793
00:28:32,149 --> 00:28:30,640
but they only have that piece of the

794
00:28:35,110 --> 00:28:32,159
puzzle and then there's people that are

795
00:28:37,590 --> 00:28:35,120
like um lifelong experiencers that have

796
00:28:39,990 --> 00:28:37,600
all these weird like memories and

797
00:28:42,310 --> 00:28:40,000
thoughts and experiences that they know

798
00:28:43,830 --> 00:28:42,320
are real but they can't like you as you

799
00:28:46,149 --> 00:28:43,840
had said before you can't you know the

800
00:28:47,590 --> 00:28:46,159
puzzle picture on the box you can't see

801
00:28:49,510 --> 00:28:47,600
that but you have all the corners but

802
00:28:50,310 --> 00:28:49,520
you can't see the rest of the puzzle

803
00:28:51,990 --> 00:28:50,320
so

804
00:28:53,990 --> 00:28:52,000
i feel like at least you got those two

805
00:28:55,110 --> 00:28:54,000
puzzle pieces to like click because that

806
00:28:56,470 --> 00:28:55,120
was

807
00:28:57,909 --> 00:28:56,480
when you hear when you hear when you

808
00:28:59,430 --> 00:28:57,919
have that dream the first one you're

809
00:29:02,149 --> 00:28:59,440
probably like what in the world or that

810
00:29:03,029 --> 00:29:02,159
memory come back you must be like okay

811
00:29:04,630 --> 00:29:03,039
like

812
00:29:07,110 --> 00:29:04,640
i was being born but there was a

813
00:29:09,029 --> 00:29:07,120
continuation there was a before that so

814
00:29:11,110 --> 00:29:09,039
there was many befores

815
00:29:12,549 --> 00:29:11,120
oh absolutely yeah i tell people that

816
00:29:15,590 --> 00:29:12,559
they think i'm crazy so i don't bring it

817
00:29:17,669 --> 00:29:15,600
up often but i don't have any qualms

818
00:29:19,350 --> 00:29:17,679
about breaking it up i've had many uh

819
00:29:22,070 --> 00:29:19,360
experiences like that

820
00:29:23,669 --> 00:29:22,080
through qhd hht sessions through mindful

821
00:29:25,590 --> 00:29:23,679
meditation

822
00:29:27,510 --> 00:29:25,600
i've had

823
00:29:29,590 --> 00:29:27,520
previous lifetimes and there were not

824
00:29:31,750 --> 00:29:29,600
all human lifetimes

825
00:29:35,110 --> 00:29:31,760
there were times when i was another

826
00:29:37,510 --> 00:29:35,120
species from another planet

827
00:29:40,149 --> 00:29:37,520
um so to me that's not unusual when

828
00:29:41,190 --> 00:29:40,159
people say that so yeah i've had that as

829
00:29:42,870 --> 00:29:41,200
well

830
00:29:43,990 --> 00:29:42,880
and it seems to be a common theme that

831
00:29:48,149 --> 00:29:44,000
you know

832
00:29:50,389 --> 00:29:48,159
i'm always going to have a male

833
00:29:52,950 --> 00:29:50,399
experience in these previous lifetimes

834
00:29:55,750 --> 00:29:52,960
i've had experiences as female as well

835
00:29:57,750 --> 00:29:55,760
yeah it's it's just that my my core

836
00:30:00,070 --> 00:29:57,760
belief is that

837
00:30:03,510 --> 00:30:00,080
this corporeal body you known as you

838
00:30:05,269 --> 00:30:03,520
know as john ramirez is a host

839
00:30:07,350 --> 00:30:05,279
to a

840
00:30:09,110 --> 00:30:07,360
sentient like being with whom we have a

841
00:30:11,510 --> 00:30:09,120
symbiotic relationship

842
00:30:13,669 --> 00:30:11,520
and when we die the corporeal

843
00:30:16,310 --> 00:30:13,679
goes away but this light being is

844
00:30:19,510 --> 00:30:16,320
eternal and goes back to its home

845
00:30:23,029 --> 00:30:19,520
and may return either back in this form

846
00:30:24,070 --> 00:30:23,039
as a human or some other place

847
00:30:27,029 --> 00:30:24,080
because i

848
00:30:33,430 --> 00:30:30,710
part of the qha t-session was

849
00:30:34,310 --> 00:30:33,440
when i experienced these light beings

850
00:30:36,549 --> 00:30:34,320
my

851
00:30:39,590 --> 00:30:36,559
practitioner asked me

852
00:30:41,190 --> 00:30:39,600
ask them what they are called

853
00:30:43,350 --> 00:30:41,200
and i stumbled with that i knew it

854
00:30:46,870 --> 00:30:43,360
started with the l y

855
00:30:49,269 --> 00:30:46,880
yes l y something lysian lyssarians

856
00:30:50,630 --> 00:30:49,279
lighted up and it was lyrics

857
00:30:51,510 --> 00:30:50,640
okay

858
00:30:53,909 --> 00:30:51,520
and so

859
00:30:55,830 --> 00:30:53,919
i resonate with lyrans

860
00:30:58,470 --> 00:30:55,840
as and some that resonate with

861
00:31:00,230 --> 00:30:58,480
palladians and some with our parents um

862
00:31:01,830 --> 00:31:00,240
there's a whole

863
00:31:04,310 --> 00:31:01,840
panoply of

864
00:31:07,029 --> 00:31:04,320
these like beings but at the core of it

865
00:31:09,110 --> 00:31:07,039
is they're non-comporeo and they want to

866
00:31:12,149 --> 00:31:09,120
experience life as a

867
00:31:14,470 --> 00:31:12,159
comporeo corporeal being so that's why

868
00:31:15,990 --> 00:31:14,480
they dwell on us and other beings as

869
00:31:17,509 --> 00:31:16,000
well

870
00:31:18,789 --> 00:31:17,519
they just want to experience what is

871
00:31:21,990 --> 00:31:18,799
life like

872
00:31:25,269 --> 00:31:22,000
to have emotions to feel love to have a

873
00:31:27,509 --> 00:31:25,279
full gamut of being this person

874
00:31:29,590 --> 00:31:27,519
um because they are energy they're pure

875
00:31:32,630 --> 00:31:29,600
energy they're just they're they're

876
00:31:34,870 --> 00:31:32,640
manifestations of unconditional love

877
00:31:36,630 --> 00:31:34,880
and that's what i get from that ex those

878
00:31:38,630 --> 00:31:36,640
these experiences that their

879
00:31:40,549 --> 00:31:38,640
unconditional love and they're trying to

880
00:31:43,110 --> 00:31:40,559
teach us

881
00:31:45,509 --> 00:31:43,120
unconditional love for

882
00:31:46,950 --> 00:31:45,519
everyone for everything in the universe

883
00:31:48,389 --> 00:31:46,960
it's just

884
00:31:50,149 --> 00:31:48,399
the energy of the universe is

885
00:31:52,789 --> 00:31:50,159
unconditional love that's what drives

886
00:31:55,269 --> 00:31:52,799
everything that's why

887
00:31:57,269 --> 00:31:55,279
the experience is so

888
00:31:58,230 --> 00:31:57,279
magnificent when you have

889
00:32:00,710 --> 00:31:58,240
these

890
00:32:02,230 --> 00:32:00,720
um

891
00:32:04,710 --> 00:32:02,240
this relationship

892
00:32:06,549 --> 00:32:04,720
with your inner self and when you start

893
00:32:08,549 --> 00:32:06,559
mindful meditation

894
00:32:10,630 --> 00:32:08,559
and going back to the chakras you know

895
00:32:11,990 --> 00:32:10,640
when you know how to

896
00:32:14,630 --> 00:32:12,000
um

897
00:32:17,990 --> 00:32:14,640
send your energy down through your

898
00:32:19,190 --> 00:32:18,000
shakas to the core of the earth

899
00:32:21,750 --> 00:32:19,200
and then to

900
00:32:23,430 --> 00:32:21,760
actually i thank the earth for giving us

901
00:32:26,310 --> 00:32:23,440
this beautiful planet

902
00:32:28,389 --> 00:32:26,320
and then i say we're i'm so sorry for

903
00:32:29,509 --> 00:32:28,399
what we've done to you

904
00:32:31,909 --> 00:32:29,519
you know um

905
00:32:34,950 --> 00:32:31,919
i get very emotional about that oh

906
00:32:36,870 --> 00:32:34,960
absolutely uh that we've harmed you

907
00:32:38,389 --> 00:32:36,880
but we'll we'll do better

908
00:32:41,190 --> 00:32:38,399
and bring it back

909
00:32:43,909 --> 00:32:41,200
you know through your body to your heart

910
00:32:45,350 --> 00:32:43,919
throat third eye crown and send it out

911
00:32:47,590 --> 00:32:45,360
to the universe

912
00:32:49,590 --> 00:32:47,600
because that's that's where we're from

913
00:32:52,070 --> 00:32:49,600
it's just welcome you know i just want

914
00:32:54,070 --> 00:32:52,080
to say hi you know just cloning home

915
00:32:56,070 --> 00:32:54,080
just phoning home you know i want

916
00:32:58,149 --> 00:32:56,080
anything from you just hello you know

917
00:33:00,230 --> 00:32:58,159
maybe i want to see you again um then

918
00:33:02,389 --> 00:33:00,240
bring it back and that's when i go into

919
00:33:04,789 --> 00:33:02,399
a very deep meditative state

920
00:33:05,990 --> 00:33:04,799
where um i don't have a better word for

921
00:33:07,990 --> 00:33:06,000
downloads

922
00:33:10,389 --> 00:33:08,000
but i get inspirations

923
00:33:11,990 --> 00:33:10,399
people call downloads i get inspirations

924
00:33:14,070 --> 00:33:12,000
of messages

925
00:33:15,190 --> 00:33:14,080
um and then it's an opportunity to ask

926
00:33:17,350 --> 00:33:15,200
questions

927
00:33:19,509 --> 00:33:17,360
absolutely i think it's more than just a

928
00:33:21,430 --> 00:33:19,519
passive experience it can be active

929
00:33:24,149 --> 00:33:21,440
to ask questions

930
00:33:26,230 --> 00:33:24,159
to the universe you can manifest things

931
00:33:28,310 --> 00:33:26,240
to the universe i think we're all like

932
00:33:30,630 --> 00:33:28,320
creators in some way that you do

933
00:33:32,230 --> 00:33:30,640
manifest your own destiny

934
00:33:35,509 --> 00:33:32,240
you have free will

935
00:33:36,950 --> 00:33:35,519
but in a way you kind of manifest what

936
00:33:39,350 --> 00:33:36,960
what you want

937
00:33:41,509 --> 00:33:39,360
and you can do what's known as cosmic

938
00:33:43,190 --> 00:33:41,519
orders like you order something from a

939
00:33:44,389 --> 00:33:43,200
restaurant you order something from the

940
00:33:46,870 --> 00:33:44,399
cosmos

941
00:33:49,269 --> 00:33:46,880
um and and that's how we got this house

942
00:33:50,070 --> 00:33:49,279
i'm living in my my wife

943
00:33:53,110 --> 00:33:50,080
did

944
00:33:55,990 --> 00:33:53,120
a similar thing about manifesting the

945
00:33:58,149 --> 00:33:56,000
house we wanted to buy and she

946
00:34:00,470 --> 00:33:58,159
listed everything she wanted

947
00:34:02,710 --> 00:34:00,480
did a mindful meditation

948
00:34:04,789 --> 00:34:02,720
with dancing and singing because she

949
00:34:06,470 --> 00:34:04,799
likes to dance and sing

950
00:34:09,430 --> 00:34:06,480
to the universe

951
00:34:11,669 --> 00:34:09,440
and she did it um on a wednesday night

952
00:34:13,430 --> 00:34:11,679
and thursday morning our realtor called

953
00:34:15,510 --> 00:34:13,440
and said hey there's the house on the

954
00:34:17,109 --> 00:34:15,520
market that yeah it's not on the market

955
00:34:17,909 --> 00:34:17,119
yet but you need to see it but it'll go

956
00:34:20,550 --> 00:34:17,919
quick

957
00:34:22,310 --> 00:34:20,560
and everything on that list

958
00:34:24,470 --> 00:34:22,320
was in the house

959
00:34:26,310 --> 00:34:24,480
everything i believe it i believe it a

960
00:34:28,710 --> 00:34:26,320
lot of people are doing that you know

961
00:34:30,550 --> 00:34:28,720
the intention setting and manifestation

962
00:34:32,069 --> 00:34:30,560
techniques like that not enough people

963
00:34:33,750 --> 00:34:32,079
are doing it because they don't believe

964
00:34:35,109 --> 00:34:33,760
it but um

965
00:34:36,629 --> 00:34:35,119
i believe it that's how i got my wedding

966
00:34:37,669 --> 00:34:36,639
dress like the lady's like oh this just

967
00:34:39,430 --> 00:34:37,679
came in today and i was like are you

968
00:34:41,109 --> 00:34:39,440
kidding me my friend was like

969
00:34:42,470 --> 00:34:41,119
she was like she went with me to try it

970
00:34:44,389 --> 00:34:42,480
on she's like

971
00:34:45,990 --> 00:34:44,399
you just ex she's like you described

972
00:34:47,510 --> 00:34:46,000
this dress to me like the other day and

973
00:34:48,869 --> 00:34:47,520
i was like i know because that's what i

974
00:34:50,470 --> 00:34:48,879
wanted and she's like that's this just

975
00:34:51,990 --> 00:34:50,480
came in yesterday and it had like she

976
00:34:53,030 --> 00:34:52,000
had to take it out of the bag

977
00:34:54,629 --> 00:34:53,040
you know

978
00:34:56,149 --> 00:34:54,639
so little sometimes we don't realize

979
00:34:58,150 --> 00:34:56,159
we're doing it either which can work

980
00:35:00,150 --> 00:34:58,160
both ways right

981
00:35:01,829 --> 00:35:00,160
yeah and i i just

982
00:35:04,550 --> 00:35:01,839
think the synchronicities are so

983
00:35:06,870 --> 00:35:04,560
beautiful when they happen

984
00:35:09,030 --> 00:35:06,880
that we live in this this

985
00:35:11,589 --> 00:35:09,040
beautiful universe and when you see

986
00:35:13,430 --> 00:35:11,599
you're resonating with the universe and

987
00:35:15,190 --> 00:35:13,440
in sync with

988
00:35:17,990 --> 00:35:15,200
your wavelength

989
00:35:19,910 --> 00:35:18,000
um and that resonance is strong

990
00:35:21,750 --> 00:35:19,920
wonderful things can happen

991
00:35:24,230 --> 00:35:21,760
and part of that learning how to

992
00:35:27,109 --> 00:35:24,240
meditate mindfully is to find your

993
00:35:28,069 --> 00:35:27,119
resident frequency find it

994
00:35:29,990 --> 00:35:28,079
and then

995
00:35:32,150 --> 00:35:30,000
tune into it because we all have

996
00:35:33,589 --> 00:35:32,160
different resonant frequencies and it

997
00:35:36,310 --> 00:35:33,599
doesn't mean one is better than the

998
00:35:39,430 --> 00:35:36,320
other it's just different yes

999
00:35:41,030 --> 00:35:39,440
and what i tell people is like um

1000
00:35:42,470 --> 00:35:41,040
uh this probably

1001
00:35:44,470 --> 00:35:42,480
kind of dates me but i don't know if

1002
00:35:45,750 --> 00:35:44,480
people actually listen to the radio on

1003
00:35:47,910 --> 00:35:45,760
the air

1004
00:35:50,710 --> 00:35:47,920
but if you look at all the fm radio

1005
00:35:52,390 --> 00:35:50,720
stations broadcasting on the air

1006
00:35:54,230 --> 00:35:52,400
they're all there

1007
00:35:57,510 --> 00:35:54,240
and that's the full spectrum of the

1008
00:35:59,270 --> 00:35:57,520
experience but you choose your radio

1009
00:36:00,630 --> 00:35:59,280
station and just because you're

1010
00:36:04,470 --> 00:36:00,640
listening to

1011
00:36:06,310 --> 00:36:04,480
um like classic rock or classical

1012
00:36:08,790 --> 00:36:06,320
or country in western whatever your

1013
00:36:10,710 --> 00:36:08,800
favorite music is it doesn't mean that

1014
00:36:13,430 --> 00:36:10,720
these other stations aren't there as

1015
00:36:14,630 --> 00:36:13,440
well they're there but we're tuning in

1016
00:36:16,550 --> 00:36:14,640
and so

1017
00:36:19,349 --> 00:36:16,560
the by broadening

1018
00:36:21,270 --> 00:36:19,359
the spectrum of accepting it all making

1019
00:36:23,349 --> 00:36:21,280
it more broadband

1020
00:36:25,349 --> 00:36:23,359
you get the full impact

1021
00:36:27,190 --> 00:36:25,359
of all the you know what the universe

1022
00:36:29,990 --> 00:36:27,200
offers yes

1023
00:36:32,470 --> 00:36:30,000
and then you might find affinity toward

1024
00:36:34,710 --> 00:36:32,480
a certain part of that spectrum

1025
00:36:35,910 --> 00:36:34,720
from which you can grow and so i've been

1026
00:36:38,310 --> 00:36:35,920
doing that

1027
00:36:40,870 --> 00:36:38,320
uh most of my adult life and it's been

1028
00:36:42,390 --> 00:36:40,880
very fulfilling for myself as well as my

1029
00:36:45,829 --> 00:36:42,400
wife to do that

1030
00:36:47,829 --> 00:36:45,839
yeah you seem very uh at peace and very

1031
00:36:50,550 --> 00:36:47,839
um you seem the way you talk about your

1032
00:36:51,670 --> 00:36:50,560
wife and i thought it was um

1033
00:36:53,190 --> 00:36:51,680
i thought it was awesome when i was

1034
00:36:55,190 --> 00:36:53,200
asking for an interview in february

1035
00:36:58,069 --> 00:36:55,200
you're like any day but the 14th and i

1036
00:36:59,910 --> 00:36:58,079
was just like that's right

1037
00:37:01,990 --> 00:36:59,920
i was like that's about that's so

1038
00:37:04,230 --> 00:37:02,000
um not a lot of people like do that

1039
00:37:06,230 --> 00:37:04,240
anymore do you know what i mean so

1040
00:37:07,349 --> 00:37:06,240
and some people are cynical about you

1041
00:37:08,950 --> 00:37:07,359
know the whole valentine's day thing but

1042
00:37:10,310 --> 00:37:08,960
i could the way you talk about her she

1043
00:37:11,829 --> 00:37:10,320
sounds like a lovely

1044
00:37:13,910 --> 00:37:11,839
person and

1045
00:37:15,349 --> 00:37:13,920
um i'm very glad that you guys have each

1046
00:37:17,510 --> 00:37:15,359
other but it sounds like you've been

1047
00:37:19,589 --> 00:37:17,520
manifesting what you wanted and you seem

1048
00:37:20,870 --> 00:37:19,599
very at peace like you know when you

1049
00:37:22,630 --> 00:37:20,880
talk to people and they're just very

1050
00:37:23,990 --> 00:37:22,640
angsty feeling or you can tell they're

1051
00:37:26,950 --> 00:37:24,000
very um

1052
00:37:27,910 --> 00:37:26,960
disheveled or whatever um you seem like

1053
00:37:32,470 --> 00:37:27,920
very

1054
00:37:33,270 --> 00:37:32,480
any other way to put it um

1055
00:37:35,109 --> 00:37:33,280
so

1056
00:37:36,630 --> 00:37:35,119
it's it's great that you know you're

1057
00:37:39,030 --> 00:37:36,640
talking about this because not enough

1058
00:37:41,349 --> 00:37:39,040
people ask you about this sort of thing

1059
00:37:43,430 --> 00:37:41,359
um i do have an audience question and

1060
00:37:46,470 --> 00:37:43,440
it's from my friend nikki who is also an

1061
00:37:48,230 --> 00:37:46,480
experiencer she's i've known her for a

1062
00:37:52,630 --> 00:37:48,240
very long time

1063
00:37:54,470 --> 00:37:52,640
and she um she found an implant so

1064
00:37:56,310 --> 00:37:54,480
she's asking if you've ever been checked

1065
00:37:58,150 --> 00:37:56,320
for implants and i know that there's

1066
00:37:59,430 --> 00:37:58,160
some weirdness with your medical records

1067
00:38:01,430 --> 00:37:59,440
right so

1068
00:38:03,270 --> 00:38:01,440
um have you been knowledgeably checked

1069
00:38:05,589 --> 00:38:03,280
for implants

1070
00:38:07,349 --> 00:38:05,599
well no i haven't

1071
00:38:09,589 --> 00:38:07,359
but having said that

1072
00:38:12,630 --> 00:38:09,599
i do know i have an implant

1073
00:38:14,950 --> 00:38:12,640
and i know that from light workers that

1074
00:38:17,270 --> 00:38:14,960
are friends of mine my own

1075
00:38:19,030 --> 00:38:17,280
light worker practitioners

1076
00:38:21,589 --> 00:38:19,040
they told me that i had an implant

1077
00:38:23,109 --> 00:38:21,599
because they can hear it so oh my gosh

1078
00:38:24,550 --> 00:38:23,119
it's it's like

1079
00:38:27,430 --> 00:38:24,560
i can hear it

1080
00:38:29,750 --> 00:38:27,440
and one light worker uh my implant

1081
00:38:30,790 --> 00:38:29,760
didn't resonate with her

1082
00:38:32,550 --> 00:38:30,800
quite well

1083
00:38:34,470 --> 00:38:32,560
and so she started getting headaches

1084
00:38:35,510 --> 00:38:34,480
like a physical manifestation of a

1085
00:38:37,589 --> 00:38:35,520
headache

1086
00:38:40,950 --> 00:38:37,599
along with another gentleman

1087
00:38:42,390 --> 00:38:40,960
who is very much an empath that got a

1088
00:38:46,790 --> 00:38:42,400
headache from me

1089
00:38:52,630 --> 00:38:50,310
my companion know and so here's where

1090
00:38:53,670 --> 00:38:52,640
it gets really strange um there is

1091
00:38:56,470 --> 00:38:53,680
someone

1092
00:38:58,470 --> 00:38:56,480
an entity that is with me all the time

1093
00:39:02,950 --> 00:38:58,480
they're on my right shoulder a little

1094
00:39:04,870 --> 00:39:02,960
bit behind me it's i sense it as a

1095
00:39:06,230 --> 00:39:04,880
female

1096
00:39:08,470 --> 00:39:06,240
companion

1097
00:39:09,829 --> 00:39:08,480
i can i can sense feminine energy from

1098
00:39:10,790 --> 00:39:09,839
her

1099
00:39:13,430 --> 00:39:10,800
and

1100
00:39:15,430 --> 00:39:13,440
she's more of a protector not

1101
00:39:17,109 --> 00:39:15,440
a controller

1102
00:39:19,270 --> 00:39:17,119
when i say this people think oh your

1103
00:39:21,589 --> 00:39:19,280
your mind is being controlled

1104
00:39:24,069 --> 00:39:21,599
no no no because people have talked

1105
00:39:26,310 --> 00:39:24,079
about guardian angels for how long yes

1106
00:39:28,710 --> 00:39:26,320
exactly it's an energy stream or energy

1107
00:39:31,910 --> 00:39:28,720
frequency and you just aren't calling it

1108
00:39:32,950 --> 00:39:31,920
an angel and it's some divine feminine

1109
00:39:34,950 --> 00:39:32,960
energy

1110
00:39:37,910 --> 00:39:34,960
that is more protective

1111
00:39:39,430 --> 00:39:37,920
and i had to let her know

1112
00:39:42,150 --> 00:39:39,440
please

1113
00:39:43,750 --> 00:39:42,160
i am not being threatened by these other

1114
00:39:44,870 --> 00:39:43,760
people

1115
00:39:48,470 --> 00:39:44,880
you know

1116
00:39:51,510 --> 00:39:48,480
be more quiet

1117
00:39:53,109 --> 00:39:51,520
and when i did that it went away it went

1118
00:39:54,950 --> 00:39:53,119
away they didn't have that headache when

1119
00:39:57,030 --> 00:39:54,960
i met them again

1120
00:39:58,790 --> 00:39:57,040
they didn't have any headaches

1121
00:40:01,990 --> 00:39:58,800
and the light worker told me oh yeah

1122
00:40:04,230 --> 00:40:02,000
it's it's very definitely a a feminine

1123
00:40:06,950 --> 00:40:04,240
divine feminine presence

1124
00:40:08,069 --> 00:40:06,960
uh with you and it's been

1125
00:40:11,030 --> 00:40:08,079
there

1126
00:40:14,309 --> 00:40:11,040
ever since i can remember that it's a

1127
00:40:15,829 --> 00:40:14,319
very protective kind of nurturing

1128
00:40:17,510 --> 00:40:15,839
entity

1129
00:40:20,550 --> 00:40:17,520
yes and a lot of people talk about that

1130
00:40:21,990 --> 00:40:20,560
as like their guides or their angels or

1131
00:40:24,950 --> 00:40:22,000
their guardian angels you had talked

1132
00:40:27,349 --> 00:40:24,960
about a cover experience earlier and the

1133
00:40:29,430 --> 00:40:27,359
more i'm learning from other experiences

1134
00:40:31,670 --> 00:40:29,440
and some of this terminology

1135
00:40:32,950 --> 00:40:31,680
i'm like my first experience after

1136
00:40:34,790 --> 00:40:32,960
seeing those

1137
00:40:36,069 --> 00:40:34,800
i've had angelic experiences as far as i

1138
00:40:37,510 --> 00:40:36,079
can remember

1139
00:40:40,790 --> 00:40:37,520
so

1140
00:40:43,510 --> 00:40:40,800
i'm very i'm not confused anymore

1141
00:40:45,589 --> 00:40:43,520
but there was a point even earlier last

1142
00:40:46,630 --> 00:40:45,599
year where i was like that was not an

1143
00:40:49,190 --> 00:40:46,640
angel

1144
00:40:51,030 --> 00:40:49,200
it was a glowing human shape

1145
00:40:53,670 --> 00:40:51,040
and it had

1146
00:40:56,150 --> 00:40:53,680
i when they show up they're just glowing

1147
00:40:57,670 --> 00:40:56,160
and then it turns into this physicality

1148
00:40:59,030 --> 00:40:57,680
but maybe that's because i've seen

1149
00:41:01,030 --> 00:40:59,040
angels and i want it to look like an

1150
00:41:03,349 --> 00:41:01,040
angel so it makes sense a cover

1151
00:41:05,349 --> 00:41:03,359
experience you know like you said so i

1152
00:41:08,870 --> 00:41:05,359
just wanted to throw that out there

1153
00:41:10,630 --> 00:41:08,880
but um i have a good question from um

1154
00:41:11,829 --> 00:41:10,640
james from engaging the phenomenon he's

1155
00:41:13,510 --> 00:41:11,839
an amazing guy i don't know if you've

1156
00:41:14,950 --> 00:41:13,520
seen his channel he's

1157
00:41:19,670 --> 00:41:14,960
just

1158
00:41:22,470 --> 00:41:19,680
said he has a question um was john part

1159
00:41:24,790 --> 00:41:22,480
of the kit green nolan experiencer study

1160
00:41:28,069 --> 00:41:24,800
not formally no

1161
00:41:31,190 --> 00:41:28,079
when i asked cia for my medical records

1162
00:41:33,589 --> 00:41:31,200
i was suggested that

1163
00:41:36,470 --> 00:41:33,599
perhaps that would be an opportunity to

1164
00:41:38,550 --> 00:41:36,480
make myself known to kate green since he

1165
00:41:40,390 --> 00:41:38,560
was also cia

1166
00:41:42,950 --> 00:41:40,400
and

1167
00:41:45,349 --> 00:41:42,960
he has dealt with many of the paranormal

1168
00:41:47,270 --> 00:41:45,359
aspects the metaphysical aspects

1169
00:41:49,190 --> 00:41:47,280
of what cia does

1170
00:41:51,109 --> 00:41:49,200
for example remote viewing and so that

1171
00:41:54,069 --> 00:41:51,119
might be an opportunity when i do get my

1172
00:41:57,030 --> 00:41:54,079
medical records to send it to him

1173
00:41:59,510 --> 00:41:57,040
and i know how to contact him

1174
00:42:01,430 --> 00:41:59,520
so that's a very good suggestion of you

1175
00:42:03,670 --> 00:42:01,440
know being part of that study

1176
00:42:06,550 --> 00:42:03,680
one thing i don't want to happen is i

1177
00:42:07,829 --> 00:42:06,560
don't want my implant to be removed

1178
00:42:09,349 --> 00:42:07,839
yes yes

1179
00:42:11,030 --> 00:42:09,359
my friend says the same thing she's like

1180
00:42:12,790 --> 00:42:11,040
it's there and i'm fine with it being

1181
00:42:15,190 --> 00:42:12,800
there because right

1182
00:42:16,790 --> 00:42:15,200
right it's not a controller it doesn't

1183
00:42:19,109 --> 00:42:16,800
control me

1184
00:42:21,270 --> 00:42:19,119
for me it's like it's reporting

1185
00:42:25,109 --> 00:42:21,280
somewhere and it protects me

1186
00:42:27,190 --> 00:42:25,119
um that's my perception of it

1187
00:42:29,190 --> 00:42:27,200
yes that makes sense um and like you had

1188
00:42:31,750 --> 00:42:29,200
said before they're checking in and i

1189
00:42:33,910 --> 00:42:31,760
often with with like even

1190
00:42:35,829 --> 00:42:33,920
so i i said i had these horrible scary

1191
00:42:37,829 --> 00:42:35,839
experiences with grace traumatic all

1192
00:42:40,150 --> 00:42:37,839
this horrible stuff happened um

1193
00:42:41,510 --> 00:42:40,160
and it was just horrible because i was

1194
00:42:43,030 --> 00:42:41,520
young at the time and little and i

1195
00:42:45,109 --> 00:42:43,040
didn't understand it

1196
00:42:46,790 --> 00:42:45,119
and now that i'm looking back it's

1197
00:42:47,670 --> 00:42:46,800
almost like

1198
00:42:54,470 --> 00:42:47,680
um

1199
00:42:55,349 --> 00:42:54,480
telepathically in an experience

1200
00:42:57,030 --> 00:42:55,359
um

1201
00:42:58,230 --> 00:42:57,040
basically we're just doing our job like

1202
00:43:00,230 --> 00:42:58,240
we're not trying to hurt you you know

1203
00:43:01,190 --> 00:43:00,240
we're just sampling which brings up the

1204
00:43:03,829 --> 00:43:01,200
whole

1205
00:43:05,270 --> 00:43:03,839
you know hybridization um thing but

1206
00:43:06,390 --> 00:43:05,280
before we get off on that because that's

1207
00:43:07,589 --> 00:43:06,400
going to be another

1208
00:43:09,430 --> 00:43:07,599
that's that's a

1209
00:43:11,270 --> 00:43:09,440
something i do want to ask you tonight i

1210
00:43:12,550 --> 00:43:11,280
want to ask you about physical symptoms

1211
00:43:15,270 --> 00:43:12,560
you said she could kind of send your

1212
00:43:16,950 --> 00:43:15,280
friend could sense your implant um after

1213
00:43:19,030 --> 00:43:16,960
and i think i actually this might have

1214
00:43:20,790 --> 00:43:19,040
been why i messaged you

1215
00:43:23,030 --> 00:43:20,800
um initially

1216
00:43:24,390 --> 00:43:23,040
um before i even asked you to come on

1217
00:43:27,190 --> 00:43:24,400
here

1218
00:43:30,150 --> 00:43:27,200
that after my first experience i

1219
00:43:32,309 --> 00:43:30,160
developed tinnitus um

1220
00:43:35,670 --> 00:43:32,319
the ringing was so bad at one point

1221
00:43:37,510 --> 00:43:35,680
where i was i was young i was

1222
00:43:38,950 --> 00:43:37,520
not past first grade and my first

1223
00:43:40,630 --> 00:43:38,960
experience this was kindergarten because

1224
00:43:42,069 --> 00:43:40,640
i remember the teacher i remember

1225
00:43:43,910 --> 00:43:42,079
telling my you know my bestie in

1226
00:43:45,829 --> 00:43:43,920
kindergarten and everybody laughed and

1227
00:43:47,829 --> 00:43:45,839
told me i was lying all this stuff but i

1228
00:43:50,150 --> 00:43:47,839
remember there was this um

1229
00:43:53,430 --> 00:43:50,160
like high-pitched ringing

1230
00:43:55,990 --> 00:43:53,440
and it's always there and it changes

1231
00:43:58,150 --> 00:43:56,000
it's not and i did i have had tinnitus

1232
00:43:59,190 --> 00:43:58,160
experiences where it's the wishing

1233
00:44:01,990 --> 00:43:59,200
um

1234
00:44:04,069 --> 00:44:02,000
but this is almost like it changes and

1235
00:44:05,910 --> 00:44:04,079
when they're near and i know i'm gonna

1236
00:44:07,829 --> 00:44:05,920
have an experience and i don't know if

1237
00:44:09,510 --> 00:44:07,839
this falls into high strangeness but

1238
00:44:11,510 --> 00:44:09,520
there's like this weird like feeling in

1239
00:44:14,550 --> 00:44:11,520
the air and i get like the ringing gets

1240
00:44:17,190 --> 00:44:14,560
louder and the uh pressure comes

1241
00:44:18,630 --> 00:44:17,200
so um i don't know if that um have you

1242
00:44:21,270 --> 00:44:18,640
ever have you had any physical

1243
00:44:24,309 --> 00:44:21,280
experiences like that

1244
00:44:26,230 --> 00:44:24,319
it's interesting you you mentioned um

1245
00:44:28,950 --> 00:44:26,240
this high pitch

1246
00:44:30,870 --> 00:44:28,960
ringing or frequency sometimes it sounds

1247
00:44:33,750 --> 00:44:30,880
like morse code like techno morse code

1248
00:44:35,670 --> 00:44:33,760
as this way i couldn't explain it i have

1249
00:44:36,470 --> 00:44:35,680
experienced something like that

1250
00:44:38,069 --> 00:44:36,480
and

1251
00:44:41,030 --> 00:44:38,079
it sort of like

1252
00:44:42,790 --> 00:44:41,040
starts at a very low amplitude and rises

1253
00:44:44,069 --> 00:44:42,800
in volume

1254
00:44:46,870 --> 00:44:44,079
and then

1255
00:44:50,150 --> 00:44:46,880
stays for maybe a minute or two

1256
00:44:53,030 --> 00:44:50,160
and then decreases the volume goes away

1257
00:44:55,030 --> 00:44:53,040
i haven't correlated that to any

1258
00:44:57,589 --> 00:44:55,040
other experience other than this

1259
00:44:59,270 --> 00:44:57,599
physical manifestation

1260
00:45:02,150 --> 00:44:59,280
of ringing but this was

1261
00:45:03,829 --> 00:45:02,160
this had occurred to me

1262
00:45:06,470 --> 00:45:03,839
throughout my life and even before i

1263
00:45:07,589 --> 00:45:06,480
start going to live concerts

1264
00:45:09,349 --> 00:45:07,599
yeah i was just thinking that like

1265
00:45:11,030 --> 00:45:09,359
obviously you leave like a rock concert

1266
00:45:12,710 --> 00:45:11,040
in your teenage years

1267
00:45:14,790 --> 00:45:12,720
yeah and you got the ringing but this is

1268
00:45:17,430 --> 00:45:14,800
like this is too early for that exactly

1269
00:45:18,550 --> 00:45:17,440
taking me to a metal concert when i was

1270
00:45:20,550 --> 00:45:18,560
five

1271
00:45:22,150 --> 00:45:20,560
you know what i mean it wasn't like

1272
00:45:25,270 --> 00:45:22,160
we weren't even allowed to go outside

1273
00:45:27,430 --> 00:45:25,280
because um we had gang activity so like

1274
00:45:29,910 --> 00:45:27,440
it's um you know we weren't we weren't

1275
00:45:31,990 --> 00:45:29,920
outside listening to loud things uh

1276
00:45:33,670 --> 00:45:32,000
my my grandparents pretty much raised me

1277
00:45:35,109 --> 00:45:33,680
so it's not like

1278
00:45:38,150 --> 00:45:35,119
you know that they were loud people like

1279
00:45:39,109 --> 00:45:38,160
my grandpa was a very quiet uh stoner so

1280
00:45:41,030 --> 00:45:39,119
he's a

1281
00:45:41,910 --> 00:45:41,040
hippie woodstock guy so

1282
00:45:46,150 --> 00:45:41,920
um

1283
00:45:47,109 --> 00:45:46,160
people want to write that off just like

1284
00:45:48,710 --> 00:45:47,119
they want to write off the sleep

1285
00:45:50,790 --> 00:45:48,720
paralysis and

1286
00:45:51,670 --> 00:45:50,800
the dream experiences

1287
00:45:53,750 --> 00:45:51,680
and

1288
00:45:55,349 --> 00:45:53,760
you know things like eczema as hives

1289
00:45:56,870 --> 00:45:55,359
when it's not

1290
00:45:58,950 --> 00:45:56,880
you know xmas and patches it's not gonna

1291
00:46:01,190 --> 00:45:58,960
be like boom like hives

1292
00:46:03,589 --> 00:46:01,200
and really random just you know after an

1293
00:46:05,750 --> 00:46:03,599
experience kind of thing so

1294
00:46:08,230 --> 00:46:05,760
yeah um so

1295
00:46:10,150 --> 00:46:08,240
you you had that before metal concerts

1296
00:46:12,390 --> 00:46:10,160
and you haven't been well i didn't go to

1297
00:46:15,589 --> 00:46:12,400
a mental concerts uh believe it or not

1298
00:46:19,910 --> 00:46:15,599
i'm more into the 80s goth industrial

1299
00:46:21,829 --> 00:46:19,920
scene oh i couldn't i used to go to um

1300
00:46:24,470 --> 00:46:21,839
banshees the cure

1301
00:46:29,030 --> 00:46:27,030
okay i love you even more now because i

1302
00:46:31,030 --> 00:46:29,040
love that kind of music like i

1303
00:46:32,390 --> 00:46:31,040
i was born in 1984 so it's not like i

1304
00:46:34,230 --> 00:46:32,400
got to like hang out with my friends

1305
00:46:36,390 --> 00:46:34,240
through that music but i feel like i've

1306
00:46:37,750 --> 00:46:36,400
always just loved it maybe because like

1307
00:46:40,150 --> 00:46:37,760
my dad or mom would listen to it you

1308
00:46:41,750 --> 00:46:40,160
know or whoever was around me you got to

1309
00:46:44,550 --> 00:46:41,760
love the cure and you gotta love georgia

1310
00:46:48,950 --> 00:46:46,710
yeah i got to see these bands uh in

1311
00:46:50,309 --> 00:46:48,960
washington dc we had a very vibrant

1312
00:46:53,910 --> 00:46:50,319
music scene

1313
00:46:55,750 --> 00:46:53,920
um and for example at the 9 30 club when

1314
00:46:57,510 --> 00:46:55,760
it was actually at 930 f street

1315
00:47:00,309 --> 00:46:57,520
northwest in dc

1316
00:47:02,950 --> 00:47:00,319
go to the back bar and there was

1317
00:47:04,309 --> 00:47:02,960
none other than um mr foo fighter

1318
00:47:07,190 --> 00:47:04,319
himself

1319
00:47:09,190 --> 00:47:07,200
uh right there sharing a beer with him

1320
00:47:11,030 --> 00:47:09,200
and so i got to meet

1321
00:47:13,190 --> 00:47:11,040
um a lot of

1322
00:47:16,230 --> 00:47:13,200
people who at that time he was playing

1323
00:47:17,589 --> 00:47:16,240
in a local parkour band and then later

1324
00:47:18,390 --> 00:47:17,599
you know

1325
00:47:20,549 --> 00:47:18,400
uh

1326
00:47:23,510 --> 00:47:20,559
joined nirvana and then later had foo

1327
00:47:26,470 --> 00:47:23,520
fighters so i got to meet him he's a he

1328
00:47:28,549 --> 00:47:26,480
i he's a great musician and

1329
00:47:31,670 --> 00:47:28,559
um it's very sad what happened to kurt

1330
00:47:34,309 --> 00:47:31,680
cobain but yeah dave girl is um he seems

1331
00:47:35,109 --> 00:47:34,319
like a really cool open down-to-earth

1332
00:47:36,710 --> 00:47:35,119
guy

1333
00:47:39,589 --> 00:47:36,720
so yeah and

1334
00:47:40,549 --> 00:47:39,599
when when nirvana first played at this

1335
00:47:44,150 --> 00:47:40,559
club

1336
00:47:47,109 --> 00:47:44,160
it was basically a five dollar ticket

1337
00:47:50,230 --> 00:47:47,119
and yeah i had vip passes where i can

1338
00:47:52,390 --> 00:47:50,240
invite myself and like one other person

1339
00:47:55,349 --> 00:47:52,400
and i was single back then

1340
00:47:57,349 --> 00:47:55,359
so what i would do is get my vip pass

1341
00:47:59,030 --> 00:47:57,359
and say oh she looks interesting

1342
00:48:00,630 --> 00:47:59,040
hi get out of the line i got to be my

1343
00:48:02,230 --> 00:48:00,640
piece come on

1344
00:48:03,990 --> 00:48:02,240
right to the front and uh so i was a

1345
00:48:05,829 --> 00:48:04,000
very popular guy back then i just get

1346
00:48:07,349 --> 00:48:05,839
like the um

1347
00:48:09,829 --> 00:48:07,359
now now this is really going to get off

1348
00:48:12,549 --> 00:48:09,839
topic but um the scene in wayne's world

1349
00:48:14,390 --> 00:48:12,559
where they're like with their past

1350
00:48:16,870 --> 00:48:14,400
so um

1351
00:48:18,710 --> 00:48:16,880
but actually um james is like all full

1352
00:48:20,630 --> 00:48:18,720
of the good questions tonight um this

1353
00:48:22,790 --> 00:48:20,640
might be a good segue into the

1354
00:48:24,870 --> 00:48:22,800
hybridization stuff that

1355
00:48:26,950 --> 00:48:24,880
um in the collecting of genetic material

1356
00:48:29,430 --> 00:48:26,960
stuff that we i kind of wanted to talk

1357
00:48:31,910 --> 00:48:29,440
about you talk to you with oh my gosh i

1358
00:48:33,910 --> 00:48:31,920
can't think talk to you about

1359
00:48:35,270 --> 00:48:33,920
sorry two and a three-year-old um two

1360
00:48:37,430 --> 00:48:35,280
and a four-year-old at the end of the

1361
00:48:39,670 --> 00:48:37,440
night sometimes my brain just stops so

1362
00:48:42,470 --> 00:48:39,680
the question is the hotel meeting

1363
00:48:45,030 --> 00:48:42,480
discussion discussing hybridization was

1364
00:48:47,190 --> 00:48:45,040
anyone from ned's present or on the sign

1365
00:48:49,349 --> 00:48:47,200
in the list like john alexander kit

1366
00:48:51,589 --> 00:48:49,359
green helped put off jack valley

1367
00:48:53,510 --> 00:48:51,599
colin keller and robert bigelow run you

1368
00:48:54,390 --> 00:48:53,520
know he's gotten ron pendle

1369
00:48:57,109 --> 00:48:54,400
no

1370
00:48:59,910 --> 00:48:57,119
um

1371
00:49:02,390 --> 00:48:59,920
it was sponsored

1372
00:49:06,470 --> 00:49:02,400
by a science office

1373
00:49:09,109 --> 00:49:06,480
and the person who gave the briefing

1374
00:49:11,910 --> 00:49:09,119
had access to cia's historical

1375
00:49:14,309 --> 00:49:11,920
classified historical records

1376
00:49:16,950 --> 00:49:14,319
and so this person went back and

1377
00:49:19,349 --> 00:49:16,960
discovered this information

1378
00:49:22,710 --> 00:49:19,359
of cia's involvement

1379
00:49:24,710 --> 00:49:22,720
into ufos and briefed us

1380
00:49:26,790 --> 00:49:24,720
but there were none of the what you

1381
00:49:28,470 --> 00:49:26,800
would consider principles that you know

1382
00:49:30,630 --> 00:49:28,480
of in ufology

1383
00:49:33,030 --> 00:49:30,640
present at the time

1384
00:49:35,349 --> 00:49:33,040
but who was there um

1385
00:49:37,349 --> 00:49:35,359
were these academic types these people

1386
00:49:39,670 --> 00:49:37,359
with edu addresses

1387
00:49:41,510 --> 00:49:39,680
i did not recognize any of them and i

1388
00:49:43,829 --> 00:49:41,520
know ron philadelphia i met him before i

1389
00:49:47,109 --> 00:49:43,839
know who he is

1390
00:49:50,150 --> 00:49:47,119
and the other folks

1391
00:49:51,750 --> 00:49:50,160
i've never met personally but ron i have

1392
00:49:54,470 --> 00:49:51,760
met

1393
00:49:57,190 --> 00:49:54,480
they were not there and but the two

1394
00:49:58,870 --> 00:49:57,200
officers i did recognize was an officer

1395
00:50:01,510 --> 00:49:58,880
who was senior to me

1396
00:50:03,190 --> 00:50:01,520
from my parent office

1397
00:50:05,910 --> 00:50:03,200
which was weapons intelligence

1398
00:50:07,829 --> 00:50:05,920
non-proliferation and arms control

1399
00:50:08,710 --> 00:50:07,839
that office

1400
00:50:10,069 --> 00:50:08,720
and

1401
00:50:11,670 --> 00:50:10,079
that office

1402
00:50:14,309 --> 00:50:11,680
coincidentally

1403
00:50:17,670 --> 00:50:14,319
the predecessor offices

1404
00:50:20,470 --> 00:50:17,680
in the 50s 60s and 70s and 80s

1405
00:50:23,270 --> 00:50:20,480
90s they were involved with ufo research

1406
00:50:26,150 --> 00:50:23,280
at cia so this was a very senior officer

1407
00:50:27,910 --> 00:50:26,160
there and also a scientist that was

1408
00:50:30,710 --> 00:50:27,920
there that i was working with

1409
00:50:33,430 --> 00:50:30,720
um mostly in visualization scientific

1410
00:50:35,030 --> 00:50:33,440
visualization so we were doing like 3d

1411
00:50:37,030 --> 00:50:35,040
visualization you were wearing data

1412
00:50:38,309 --> 00:50:37,040
gloves and goggles

1413
00:50:40,390 --> 00:50:38,319
in the 90s

1414
00:50:43,589 --> 00:50:40,400
when no one else was doing it and i had

1415
00:50:45,910 --> 00:50:43,599
it it's very cool i had a a room

1416
00:50:48,549 --> 00:50:45,920
bathed in electromagnetic energy

1417
00:50:51,270 --> 00:50:48,559
magnetic energy so when you walk in with

1418
00:50:53,990 --> 00:50:51,280
this stuff on it knows your presence and

1419
00:50:56,630 --> 00:50:54,000
the computer software would like then

1420
00:50:58,790 --> 00:50:56,640
interact with data so that you can touch

1421
00:51:00,549 --> 00:50:58,800
data move it around

1422
00:51:01,990 --> 00:51:00,559
kind of like the you know the futuristic

1423
00:51:04,230 --> 00:51:02,000
movies where you see the people doing

1424
00:51:05,589 --> 00:51:04,240
the air computer like kind of right yeah

1425
00:51:08,630 --> 00:51:05,599
we were doing that

1426
00:51:10,790 --> 00:51:08,640
uh like 25 years ago

1427
00:51:12,710 --> 00:51:10,800
they know so much more about us than

1428
00:51:14,390 --> 00:51:12,720
most of us know about us and how our

1429
00:51:15,430 --> 00:51:14,400
energetic fields work i mean like we

1430
00:51:17,190 --> 00:51:15,440
might know

1431
00:51:18,950 --> 00:51:17,200
like i know from like a

1432
00:51:21,190 --> 00:51:18,960
like energy work standpoint and from

1433
00:51:23,829 --> 00:51:21,200
studying chakras and that sort of thing

1434
00:51:26,309 --> 00:51:23,839
but they know like they know

1435
00:51:27,109 --> 00:51:26,319
how to do this with technology

1436
00:51:29,349 --> 00:51:27,119
and

1437
00:51:31,670 --> 00:51:29,359
the the general public

1438
00:51:34,150 --> 00:51:31,680
doesn't get any advantages of this or

1439
00:51:36,549 --> 00:51:34,160
any knowledge about it we just kind of

1440
00:51:37,750 --> 00:51:36,559
the majority of the general public just

1441
00:51:39,030 --> 00:51:37,760
thinks that

1442
00:51:41,990 --> 00:51:39,040
you know

1443
00:51:44,069 --> 00:51:42,000
we're just these consumers which we are

1444
00:51:45,670 --> 00:51:44,079
but if they knew about their energetic

1445
00:51:46,790 --> 00:51:45,680
qualities and their abilities to

1446
00:51:48,309 --> 00:51:46,800
interact with these sorts of

1447
00:51:50,230 --> 00:51:48,319
technologies

1448
00:51:52,710 --> 00:51:50,240
then i feel like people would be less

1449
00:51:55,270 --> 00:51:52,720
shallow and they'd be less about reality

1450
00:51:57,349 --> 00:51:55,280
tv and more about having an experience

1451
00:51:58,950 --> 00:51:57,359
in feeling their energetic body and

1452
00:51:59,750 --> 00:51:58,960
interacting with energetic things around

1453
00:52:01,589 --> 00:51:59,760
them

1454
00:52:03,670 --> 00:52:01,599
it's kind of like um

1455
00:52:05,109 --> 00:52:03,680
they're holding it back from us

1456
00:52:06,790 --> 00:52:05,119
you know what i mean

1457
00:52:09,030 --> 00:52:06,800
because to develop that technology you

1458
00:52:11,750 --> 00:52:09,040
have to know a lot about the the human

1459
00:52:13,190 --> 00:52:11,760
um electromagnetic field

1460
00:52:14,630 --> 00:52:13,200
for you to interact with something like

1461
00:52:16,390 --> 00:52:14,640
that so

1462
00:52:18,630 --> 00:52:16,400
um why are they keeping that do you

1463
00:52:21,109 --> 00:52:18,640
think why do you think that it's still

1464
00:52:23,270 --> 00:52:21,119
not out you know the closest we have now

1465
00:52:25,190 --> 00:52:23,280
is a virtual reality

1466
00:52:27,349 --> 00:52:25,200
or elon musk talking about the you know

1467
00:52:29,589 --> 00:52:27,359
the chip in your brain and all that

1468
00:52:32,790 --> 00:52:29,599
yeah and i think the cia knows a lot

1469
00:52:34,950 --> 00:52:32,800
more than it lets on in fact the study

1470
00:52:38,069 --> 00:52:34,960
of

1471
00:52:39,990 --> 00:52:38,079
research

1472
00:52:42,790 --> 00:52:40,000
by extension the office of director of

1473
00:52:44,710 --> 00:52:42,800
national intelligence at the dni level

1474
00:52:46,950 --> 00:52:44,720
there's an office that is the equivalent

1475
00:52:49,270 --> 00:52:46,960
of darpa which we all heard of it's the

1476
00:52:51,430 --> 00:52:49,280
intelligence the i instead of defense

1477
00:52:53,829 --> 00:52:51,440
stands for intelligence and they've done

1478
00:52:55,990 --> 00:52:53,839
a lot of work with the brain and the

1479
00:52:57,510 --> 00:52:56,000
mind and consciousness

1480
00:53:00,390 --> 00:52:57,520
and so

1481
00:53:02,390 --> 00:53:00,400
uh people don't realize that you know in

1482
00:53:04,630 --> 00:53:02,400
intelligence world especially cia it's

1483
00:53:05,430 --> 00:53:04,640
not just about what are the russians up

1484
00:53:08,309 --> 00:53:05,440
to

1485
00:53:10,309 --> 00:53:08,319
it's about why

1486
00:53:11,670 --> 00:53:10,319
who are we and why are we here i mean we

1487
00:53:13,990 --> 00:53:11,680
study paranormal we study the

1488
00:53:16,309 --> 00:53:14,000
metaphysical and that's a lot of what

1489
00:53:17,990 --> 00:53:16,319
kick green did and in fact

1490
00:53:20,470 --> 00:53:18,000
um

1491
00:53:22,150 --> 00:53:20,480
it was james jim simivan who said you

1492
00:53:24,390 --> 00:53:22,160
know that he worked in the office

1493
00:53:26,309 --> 00:53:24,400
dealing with the paranormal

1494
00:53:28,230 --> 00:53:26,319
the paranormal office which was the life

1495
00:53:30,549 --> 00:53:28,240
sciences division i keep telling people

1496
00:53:32,710 --> 00:53:30,559
about yes you've been talking about that

1497
00:53:35,349 --> 00:53:32,720
for and so that being that is not

1498
00:53:37,190 --> 00:53:35,359
classified that is out in open source if

1499
00:53:39,030 --> 00:53:37,200
you know where to look you you know life

1500
00:53:41,430 --> 00:53:39,040
sciences division i knew that division

1501
00:53:42,950 --> 00:53:41,440
existed and just do a google search for

1502
00:53:46,790 --> 00:53:42,960
it it came up

1503
00:53:48,950 --> 00:53:46,800
and uh any any j amy jacobson wrote um a

1504
00:53:51,910 --> 00:53:48,960
book called the phenomenon

1505
00:53:54,950 --> 00:53:51,920
and in it she referenced kick green by

1506
00:53:57,109 --> 00:53:54,960
name with life sciences division by name

1507
00:53:57,829 --> 00:53:57,119
and the fact that they did work

1508
00:53:59,990 --> 00:53:57,839
with

1509
00:54:01,349 --> 00:54:00,000
these types of esoteric

1510
00:54:04,230 --> 00:54:01,359
phenomena

1511
00:54:06,470 --> 00:54:04,240
so that's not unusual and so jim cimiban

1512
00:54:07,430 --> 00:54:06,480
kind of hinted at that as well

1513
00:54:09,670 --> 00:54:07,440
and

1514
00:54:12,309 --> 00:54:09,680
that you know it's not just

1515
00:54:13,430 --> 00:54:12,319
like russian missiles

1516
00:54:14,790 --> 00:54:13,440
no no

1517
00:54:17,349 --> 00:54:14,800
you know some people laugh at the

1518
00:54:19,270 --> 00:54:17,359
skinwalkers of the pentagon book but

1519
00:54:21,109 --> 00:54:19,280
it might just sound so

1520
00:54:23,190 --> 00:54:21,119
fantastical to i don't want to say like

1521
00:54:25,109 --> 00:54:23,200
the average mind but people that think

1522
00:54:26,549 --> 00:54:25,119
in their in a box

1523
00:54:28,069 --> 00:54:26,559
they're like this is how the world works

1524
00:54:29,190 --> 00:54:28,079
this is how science works this is the

1525
00:54:30,390 --> 00:54:29,200
nuts and bolts this is what the nuts and

1526
00:54:32,309 --> 00:54:30,400
bolts made of and they know everything

1527
00:54:33,589 --> 00:54:32,319
right so when they read something like

1528
00:54:35,030 --> 00:54:33,599
they hear something like what you just

1529
00:54:36,230 --> 00:54:35,040
said and read something like skin

1530
00:54:38,230 --> 00:54:36,240
walkers at the pentagon they're

1531
00:54:41,190 --> 00:54:38,240
obviously going to think like this is

1532
00:54:43,829 --> 00:54:41,200
too out there it's too weird it's too

1533
00:54:46,549 --> 00:54:43,839
whatever else they say you know um

1534
00:54:48,950 --> 00:54:46,559
and it's limiting the whole planet when

1535
00:54:51,030 --> 00:54:48,960
people think like that and that's why ci

1536
00:54:54,150 --> 00:54:51,040
exists i mean jim simvan himself said

1537
00:54:56,230 --> 00:54:54,160
that we cover everything in the world

1538
00:54:58,630 --> 00:54:56,240
we cover everything and that's true i

1539
00:54:59,750 --> 00:54:58,640
mean you name any issue in the world

1540
00:55:02,390 --> 00:54:59,760
whether it's

1541
00:55:03,910 --> 00:55:02,400
natural resources climate change

1542
00:55:06,549 --> 00:55:03,920
clean water

1543
00:55:08,230 --> 00:55:06,559
migration patterns of humans

1544
00:55:11,190 --> 00:55:08,240
that's so fast social interactions

1545
00:55:13,670 --> 00:55:11,200
between humans what causes conflict

1546
00:55:14,870 --> 00:55:13,680
that is that is in the purview of cia to

1547
00:55:16,230 --> 00:55:14,880
understand

1548
00:55:18,630 --> 00:55:16,240
why does

1549
00:55:20,950 --> 00:55:18,640
one group of people why do one why do

1550
00:55:22,710 --> 00:55:20,960
people fight each other

1551
00:55:24,549 --> 00:55:22,720
they see they know more about us than

1552
00:55:27,109 --> 00:55:24,559
some of us know about ourselves and it's

1553
00:55:28,470 --> 00:55:27,119
just um they're not telling anybody

1554
00:55:31,349 --> 00:55:28,480
about it

1555
00:55:35,829 --> 00:55:31,359
and it goes to the policy makers i mean

1556
00:55:37,910 --> 00:55:35,839
yeah cia doesn't do this on its own

1557
00:55:39,030 --> 00:55:37,920
policy makers we want to know the

1558
00:55:42,950 --> 00:55:39,040
answers

1559
00:55:44,309 --> 00:55:42,960
know to our

1560
00:55:46,390 --> 00:55:44,319
assets

1561
00:55:48,549 --> 00:55:46,400
uh through technical means uh through

1562
00:55:51,270 --> 00:55:48,559
human means all these

1563
00:55:53,109 --> 00:55:51,280
ways that cia interfaces with the world

1564
00:55:54,630 --> 00:55:53,119
and we get the answers and provide it to

1565
00:55:55,670 --> 00:55:54,640
the policy makers it's up to them to

1566
00:55:58,230 --> 00:55:55,680
decide what they're going to do with

1567
00:56:01,270 --> 00:55:58,240
that information we don't tell them yeah

1568
00:56:03,750 --> 00:56:01,280
so i tell them some people

1569
00:56:05,430 --> 00:56:03,760
go ahead i say some people say like just

1570
00:56:07,829 --> 00:56:05,440
tell us but then some people will throw

1571
00:56:09,670 --> 00:56:07,839
back to like well we can't even handle

1572
00:56:12,309 --> 00:56:09,680
you know the knowledge of a pandemic

1573
00:56:14,230 --> 00:56:12,319
without acting ridiculous so it's every

1574
00:56:16,309 --> 00:56:14,240
and i feel like both sides are right you

1575
00:56:18,870 --> 00:56:16,319
know there's a there's some of us that

1576
00:56:20,549 --> 00:56:18,880
would be relieved to know that so much

1577
00:56:22,710 --> 00:56:20,559
of that is being studied because a lot

1578
00:56:23,990 --> 00:56:22,720
of us are experiencing

1579
00:56:27,109 --> 00:56:24,000
um

1580
00:56:29,510 --> 00:56:27,119
not just ufo phenomenon but other

1581
00:56:32,710 --> 00:56:29,520
phenomenon like you know poltergeist

1582
00:56:34,390 --> 00:56:32,720
activities spirits other beings that

1583
00:56:36,150 --> 00:56:34,400
aren't you they don't seem like they're

1584
00:56:39,349 --> 00:56:36,160
from outer space you know

1585
00:56:40,150 --> 00:56:39,359
or even from another dimension so

1586
00:56:41,589 --> 00:56:40,160
um

1587
00:56:43,589 --> 00:56:41,599
it's just i mean it's good they're

1588
00:56:45,990 --> 00:56:43,599
studying it but it's not helping anybody

1589
00:56:47,190 --> 00:56:46,000
when the when the policymakers keep it

1590
00:56:49,750 --> 00:56:47,200
you know and they're not about and i

1591
00:56:51,670 --> 00:56:49,760
understand that a lot of it could be um

1592
00:56:53,430 --> 00:56:51,680
like national security i get that you

1593
00:56:54,870 --> 00:56:53,440
know my husband's military i want to say

1594
00:56:57,589 --> 00:56:54,880
i want everybody to stay out of wars and

1595
00:56:59,030 --> 00:56:57,599
stay safe and i get it but um it's just

1596
00:57:00,789 --> 00:56:59,040
when they're when they know something

1597
00:57:02,870 --> 00:57:00,799
about the human

1598
00:57:06,069 --> 00:57:02,880
um such as like our migration patterns

1599
00:57:07,589 --> 00:57:06,079
where did we come from are we hybrids um

1600
00:57:08,710 --> 00:57:07,599
you know from these other beings which

1601
00:57:09,670 --> 00:57:08,720
is she says

1602
00:57:15,510 --> 00:57:09,680
um

1603
00:57:18,150 --> 00:57:15,520
project for a creator species or do they

1604
00:57:20,710 --> 00:57:18,160
want to evolve us into them

1605
00:57:22,309 --> 00:57:20,720
well what i believe this is personal

1606
00:57:24,710 --> 00:57:22,319
like belief

1607
00:57:27,750 --> 00:57:24,720
um what i believe

1608
00:57:30,789 --> 00:57:27,760
is that the creation stories in these

1609
00:57:33,349 --> 00:57:30,799
ancient texts whether it be genesis or

1610
00:57:35,430 --> 00:57:33,359
the sumerian creation story

1611
00:57:38,069 --> 00:57:35,440
what it involves is a divine being or

1612
00:57:39,270 --> 00:57:38,079
divine beings or

1613
00:57:41,430 --> 00:57:39,280
higher

1614
00:57:43,510 --> 00:57:41,440
intelligences

1615
00:57:45,109 --> 00:57:43,520
having some intervention in the way we

1616
00:57:48,390 --> 00:57:45,119
evolved

1617
00:57:50,710 --> 00:57:48,400
and so for whatever reason whether if

1618
00:57:53,430 --> 00:57:50,720
you believe in the sumerian story it's

1619
00:57:56,150 --> 00:57:53,440
because they needed workers

1620
00:57:59,109 --> 00:57:56,160
and so they found these primitive beings

1621
00:58:01,910 --> 00:57:59,119
on earth and said well let's

1622
00:58:03,829 --> 00:58:01,920
let's impart some of our dna into them

1623
00:58:05,190 --> 00:58:03,839
so that we can function with them and

1624
00:58:07,349 --> 00:58:05,200
talk to them and

1625
00:58:09,670 --> 00:58:07,359
you know they can do work for us

1626
00:58:12,950 --> 00:58:09,680
let's elevate their their uh

1627
00:58:15,510 --> 00:58:12,960
intelligence so they can do work for us

1628
00:58:17,430 --> 00:58:15,520
and perhaps you know there were another

1629
00:58:19,190 --> 00:58:17,440
faction of

1630
00:58:21,990 --> 00:58:19,200
these other beings

1631
00:58:24,549 --> 00:58:22,000
that wanted us to be become more

1632
00:58:26,150 --> 00:58:24,559
elevated you're not just workers what

1633
00:58:29,030 --> 00:58:26,160
you have in you

1634
00:58:30,309 --> 00:58:29,040
um is our

1635
00:58:32,470 --> 00:58:30,319
intelligence

1636
00:58:34,950 --> 00:58:32,480
and what you are a divine being just

1637
00:58:37,589 --> 00:58:34,960
like we are and you don't want to be

1638
00:58:38,470 --> 00:58:37,599
worshipped like this other faction of

1639
00:58:41,589 --> 00:58:38,480
ours

1640
00:58:43,430 --> 00:58:41,599
we want you to accelerate and realize

1641
00:58:45,910 --> 00:58:43,440
your full potential maybe that caused

1642
00:58:48,150 --> 00:58:45,920
the conflict way back when

1643
00:58:51,589 --> 00:58:48,160
and so that explains a lot of these

1644
00:58:53,670 --> 00:58:51,599
ancient uh stories these stories of wars

1645
00:58:56,390 --> 00:58:53,680
amongst the gods

1646
00:58:58,789 --> 00:58:56,400
the the battle between god and satan for

1647
00:59:00,549 --> 00:58:58,799
example could be an allegory of that

1648
00:59:02,150 --> 00:59:00,559
occurring

1649
00:59:06,390 --> 00:59:02,160
so

1650
00:59:06,400 --> 00:59:09,670
uh that um

1651
00:59:17,190 --> 00:59:13,670
we necessarily um are like beholden to

1652
00:59:19,430 --> 00:59:17,200
them i think they gave us the means

1653
00:59:22,390 --> 00:59:19,440
to realize our own

1654
00:59:25,510 --> 00:59:22,400
destiny our we have free will

1655
00:59:27,190 --> 00:59:25,520
and the fact that we don't need to be

1656
00:59:29,910 --> 00:59:27,200
subservient

1657
00:59:30,870 --> 00:59:29,920
um to break away from that

1658
00:59:33,510 --> 00:59:30,880
serbian

1659
00:59:35,349 --> 00:59:33,520
um and i i think that's key feature that

1660
00:59:38,230 --> 00:59:35,359
uh that occurred

1661
00:59:40,870 --> 00:59:38,240
but it got kind of muddied

1662
00:59:42,710 --> 00:59:40,880
you know that story i think there were

1663
00:59:44,309 --> 00:59:42,720
the ancient peoples

1664
00:59:46,549 --> 00:59:44,319
were more knowledgeable about their

1665
00:59:48,309 --> 00:59:46,559
origin than we are today

1666
00:59:49,990 --> 00:59:48,319
because what we know today has been

1667
00:59:52,630 --> 00:59:50,000
filtered by

1668
00:59:53,670 --> 00:59:52,640
uh western religion or religion in

1669
00:59:55,349 --> 00:59:53,680
general

1670
00:59:57,109 --> 00:59:55,359
trying to frame

1671
00:59:59,349 --> 00:59:57,119
a true story

1672
01:00:02,630 --> 00:59:59,359
uh amongst uh these

1673
01:00:05,349 --> 01:00:02,640
um other stories that they imposed

1674
01:00:07,829 --> 01:00:05,359
on us and so you know genesis they say

1675
01:00:09,190 --> 01:00:07,839
you know it's not that old it's a

1676
01:00:11,349 --> 01:00:09,200
retelling and a retelling and a

1677
01:00:12,230 --> 01:00:11,359
retelling and a retelling of an older

1678
01:00:14,470 --> 01:00:12,240
story

1679
01:00:16,069 --> 01:00:14,480
if you go back to the sumerian text

1680
01:00:18,069 --> 01:00:16,079
that might have been a retelling of a

1681
01:00:18,870 --> 01:00:18,079
more ancient story yeah and a lot of

1682
01:00:21,589 --> 01:00:18,880
people

1683
01:00:22,870 --> 01:00:21,599
have a lot of that and unfortunately the

1684
01:00:25,190 --> 01:00:22,880
library

1685
01:00:27,109 --> 01:00:25,200
in alexandria egypt so

1686
01:00:28,630 --> 01:00:27,119
what i hear it was the repository of the

1687
01:00:30,630 --> 01:00:28,640
world's knowledge

1688
01:00:32,150 --> 01:00:30,640
was burnt to the ground and we lost a

1689
01:00:34,230 --> 01:00:32,160
lot of knowledge

1690
01:00:36,789 --> 01:00:34,240
from that but it was preserved in the

1691
01:00:37,910 --> 01:00:36,799
mystery schools

1692
01:00:38,950 --> 01:00:37,920
that they

1693
01:00:41,190 --> 01:00:38,960
taught

1694
01:00:43,510 --> 01:00:41,200
to their followers

1695
01:00:44,549 --> 01:00:43,520
more of the real story maybe the scene

1696
01:00:46,789 --> 01:00:44,559
movement

1697
01:00:49,349 --> 01:00:46,799
was part of that where they taught the

1698
01:00:51,829 --> 01:00:49,359
real knowledge

1699
01:00:52,630 --> 01:00:51,839
of our potential

1700
01:00:55,190 --> 01:00:52,640
so

1701
01:00:57,109 --> 01:00:55,200
that's a long-winded answer but

1702
01:00:59,109 --> 01:00:57,119
i don't think it is i think that you

1703
01:01:01,349 --> 01:00:59,119
condensed all that nicely honestly when

1704
01:01:02,150 --> 01:01:01,359
people actually researched this

1705
01:01:03,750 --> 01:01:02,160
um

1706
01:01:05,829 --> 01:01:03,760
ancient civilizations and what they

1707
01:01:08,230 --> 01:01:05,839
actually knew there's things that were

1708
01:01:11,990 --> 01:01:08,240
written about in ancient samaria that

1709
01:01:14,309 --> 01:01:12,000
you know um how would they know that and

1710
01:01:17,030 --> 01:01:14,319
then we have if you take just the

1711
01:01:19,589 --> 01:01:17,040
sumerian creation story

1712
01:01:21,750 --> 01:01:19,599
it kind of is told that way in different

1713
01:01:24,710 --> 01:01:21,760
parts of the world too

1714
01:01:26,069 --> 01:01:24,720
so

1715
01:01:27,109 --> 01:01:26,079
why people

1716
01:01:29,109 --> 01:01:27,119
think that

1717
01:01:31,109 --> 01:01:29,119
two things are happening like you know

1718
01:01:32,789 --> 01:01:31,119
we may have forgotten about

1719
01:01:34,710 --> 01:01:32,799
you know some of the stuff we knew how

1720
01:01:37,510 --> 01:01:34,720
to do like some of the spirituality

1721
01:01:39,910 --> 01:01:37,520
stuff like what we are who we are

1722
01:01:41,510 --> 01:01:39,920
it's been polluted by

1723
01:01:43,270 --> 01:01:41,520
you know technologies with blessings

1724
01:01:45,190 --> 01:01:43,280
harry i'm talking to you and seeing all

1725
01:01:47,430 --> 01:01:45,200
these people interacting interacting

1726
01:01:49,030 --> 01:01:47,440
with all these like-minded people

1727
01:01:50,789 --> 01:01:49,040
but and you know we're able to get

1728
01:01:53,270 --> 01:01:50,799
information super fast and everything's

1729
01:01:54,470 --> 01:01:53,280
so fast but at the other end of it how

1730
01:01:56,630 --> 01:01:54,480
much of

1731
01:01:59,430 --> 01:01:56,640
technology is hindering us everything

1732
01:02:00,789 --> 01:01:59,440
from chemicals that are you know we

1733
01:02:03,589 --> 01:02:00,799
can't get rid of

1734
01:02:05,510 --> 01:02:03,599
that are in our drinking water to

1735
01:02:06,870 --> 01:02:05,520
different weird frequencies that maybe

1736
01:02:08,950 --> 01:02:06,880
the human

1737
01:02:11,109 --> 01:02:08,960
we're so sensitive to like almost like a

1738
01:02:11,990 --> 01:02:11,119
fluorescent lights you know what i mean

1739
01:02:13,270 --> 01:02:12,000
so

1740
01:02:15,349 --> 01:02:13,280
i just feel like

1741
01:02:17,750 --> 01:02:15,359
we knew so much

1742
01:02:20,069 --> 01:02:17,760
because we trusted you know

1743
01:02:21,670 --> 01:02:20,079
ourselves as divine beings and having a

1744
01:02:22,870 --> 01:02:21,680
connection to these creators and then

1745
01:02:24,789 --> 01:02:22,880
the whole

1746
01:02:25,910 --> 01:02:24,799
other like you said like you know the i

1747
01:02:27,349 --> 01:02:25,920
don't even know how to put it because

1748
01:02:29,109 --> 01:02:27,359
people are like well don't say negative

1749
01:02:31,270 --> 01:02:29,119
don't say bad i say naughty because it's

1750
01:02:33,190 --> 01:02:31,280
kind of like funny um the you know the

1751
01:02:35,910 --> 01:02:33,200
naughty beings came and wanted to take

1752
01:02:39,109 --> 01:02:35,920
control and that's unfortunately

1753
01:02:41,029 --> 01:02:39,119
sometimes the loudest strongest

1754
01:02:43,029 --> 01:02:41,039
message gets through even if it's not

1755
01:02:44,150 --> 01:02:43,039
the right one and you know so the

1756
01:02:45,349 --> 01:02:44,160
control

1757
01:02:49,270 --> 01:02:45,359
the um

1758
01:02:50,870 --> 01:02:49,280
the the separation between the human and

1759
01:02:53,190 --> 01:02:50,880
its source

1760
01:02:55,270 --> 01:02:53,200
which isn't real there's no separation

1761
01:02:56,150 --> 01:02:55,280
there's no middlemen you know

1762
01:02:58,630 --> 01:02:56,160
so

1763
01:03:00,069 --> 01:02:58,640
it's it's just strange that we're people

1764
01:03:01,270 --> 01:03:00,079
are starting to you know people say it

1765
01:03:03,589 --> 01:03:01,280
all the time they're starting to wake up

1766
01:03:04,630 --> 01:03:03,599
we're starting to wake up so

1767
01:03:06,789 --> 01:03:04,640
so yeah

1768
01:03:08,470 --> 01:03:06,799
it's uh it's interesting to look back

1769
01:03:10,549 --> 01:03:08,480
and like you said the uh you see lamb

1770
01:03:12,950 --> 01:03:10,559
james says the 70 scene mirrors you know

1771
01:03:16,309 --> 01:03:12,960
it's knowledge it's knowledge that

1772
01:03:17,829 --> 01:03:16,319
people think is just a story

1773
01:03:19,510 --> 01:03:17,839
my goodness like years and years from

1774
01:03:21,430 --> 01:03:19,520
now if we don't get our heads out of our

1775
01:03:23,510 --> 01:03:21,440
rears we're going to think

1776
01:03:24,950 --> 01:03:23,520
kim kardashian's story is going to be

1777
01:03:26,390 --> 01:03:24,960
legend and lore

1778
01:03:29,430 --> 01:03:26,400
and they're like there was this one

1779
01:03:32,950 --> 01:03:29,440
goddess that ruled the planet

1780
01:03:34,870 --> 01:03:32,960
and her name was priscilla oh gosh

1781
01:03:37,109 --> 01:03:34,880
but uh yeah you make a great point

1782
01:03:39,190 --> 01:03:37,119
priscilla um

1783
01:03:43,029 --> 01:03:39,200
gosh it's uh we forgot more than we

1784
01:03:45,990 --> 01:03:43,039
remember and i'm kind of hoping that

1785
01:03:47,829 --> 01:03:46,000
their appearance now

1786
01:03:50,789 --> 01:03:47,839
is at a precipice when

1787
01:03:52,789 --> 01:03:50,799
we finally can destroy ourselves with

1788
01:03:54,390 --> 01:03:52,799
that technology

1789
01:03:56,549 --> 01:03:54,400
that we have

1790
01:03:59,670 --> 01:03:56,559
discovered the secret

1791
01:04:01,510 --> 01:03:59,680
of the atom which was theorized by the

1792
01:04:04,150 --> 01:04:01,520
greeks before they even knew there was

1793
01:04:05,750 --> 01:04:04,160
such a thing as atoms

1794
01:04:07,510 --> 01:04:05,760
i wish i could be a fly on the wall in

1795
01:04:09,589 --> 01:04:07,520
ancient greece just listening to those

1796
01:04:10,870 --> 01:04:09,599
guys talk you know all the

1797
01:04:13,589 --> 01:04:10,880
um

1798
01:04:15,349 --> 01:04:13,599
yeah philosophers and scientists how do

1799
01:04:17,670 --> 01:04:15,359
they know do you know what i mean

1800
01:04:21,029 --> 01:04:17,680
exactly and so what do we do with this

1801
01:04:23,829 --> 01:04:21,039
technology we weaponized it

1802
01:04:25,670 --> 01:04:23,839
and created a destructive force and we

1803
01:04:27,190 --> 01:04:25,680
still have that destructive force

1804
01:04:29,510 --> 01:04:27,200
everywhere

1805
01:04:31,670 --> 01:04:29,520
and so the potential especially now with

1806
01:04:34,230 --> 01:04:31,680
the tensions in the world

1807
01:04:36,630 --> 01:04:34,240
but not to get political but gosh darn

1808
01:04:40,150 --> 01:04:36,640
we're in a political world trust me you

1809
01:04:41,910 --> 01:04:40,160
know yeah sending troops um to europe to

1810
01:04:44,069 --> 01:04:41,920
stage them in case

1811
01:04:45,750 --> 01:04:44,079
as a counter to russian troops on the

1812
01:04:48,470 --> 01:04:45,760
ukraine border i mean that

1813
01:04:49,990 --> 01:04:48,480
i've seen that happen so many times as a

1814
01:04:52,549 --> 01:04:50,000
run-up to

1815
01:04:54,630 --> 01:04:52,559
conflict by the united states where we

1816
01:04:57,029 --> 01:04:54,640
didn't intend that conflict but

1817
01:04:59,510 --> 01:04:57,039
because of what we did it led to it so

1818
01:05:00,549 --> 01:04:59,520
it's this big huge game of risk that

1819
01:05:03,109 --> 01:05:00,559
they're playing

1820
01:05:05,910 --> 01:05:03,119
with dice but um the policymakers should

1821
01:05:07,349 --> 01:05:05,920
realize when they play this game of risk

1822
01:05:11,349 --> 01:05:07,359
that

1823
01:05:12,390 --> 01:05:11,359
decisions they make they should realize

1824
01:05:14,630 --> 01:05:12,400
that you know

1825
01:05:18,309 --> 01:05:14,640
they should have

1826
01:05:23,109 --> 01:05:20,710
the world's uh uh

1827
01:05:24,870 --> 01:05:23,119
benefit at in their mind that what

1828
01:05:26,309 --> 01:05:24,880
they're doing could have an unattended

1829
01:05:28,150 --> 01:05:26,319
impact so that's what we're really

1830
01:05:29,430 --> 01:05:28,160
seeing that far though people don't

1831
01:05:31,750 --> 01:05:29,440
think that far

1832
01:05:32,789 --> 01:05:31,760
well it's really amazing because uh cia

1833
01:05:33,990 --> 01:05:32,799
reporting

1834
01:05:35,430 --> 01:05:34,000
um

1835
01:05:38,150 --> 01:05:35,440
actually

1836
01:05:39,910 --> 01:05:38,160
provides policymakers with many policy

1837
01:05:41,510 --> 01:05:39,920
decisions they can take they're called

1838
01:05:43,670 --> 01:05:41,520
policy levers

1839
01:05:46,390 --> 01:05:43,680
and every time they pull the lever

1840
01:05:47,750 --> 01:05:46,400
um we we tell them you know based on

1841
01:05:49,670 --> 01:05:47,760
best analysis

1842
01:05:52,470 --> 01:05:49,680
of all the information we have these are

1843
01:05:54,470 --> 01:05:52,480
the intended consequences and unintended

1844
01:05:56,230 --> 01:05:54,480
consequences of doing that

1845
01:05:57,750 --> 01:05:56,240
so can you live with the unintended

1846
01:06:00,309 --> 01:05:57,760
consequences

1847
01:06:01,910 --> 01:06:00,319
decision a b c and d so we don't tell

1848
01:06:04,309 --> 01:06:01,920
them which one to pull

1849
01:06:06,069 --> 01:06:04,319
we leave that up to the policy makers

1850
01:06:08,069 --> 01:06:06,079
and i tell people if you don't like what

1851
01:06:10,390 --> 01:06:08,079
cia is doing and there's always this

1852
01:06:12,710 --> 01:06:10,400
this story backstory about

1853
01:06:14,549 --> 01:06:12,720
how evil we are and what we did to the

1854
01:06:16,710 --> 01:06:14,559
world and all of that a lot of that

1855
01:06:18,390 --> 01:06:16,720
happened it goes backwards like doing

1856
01:06:20,950 --> 01:06:18,400
your job almost

1857
01:06:22,789 --> 01:06:20,960
well what i tell them is that if you

1858
01:06:25,589 --> 01:06:22,799
didn't like what cia did or you don't

1859
01:06:27,349 --> 01:06:25,599
like what cia is doing now

1860
01:06:28,870 --> 01:06:27,359
who's in charge who's sitting in the

1861
01:06:30,829 --> 01:06:28,880
white house

1862
01:06:34,150 --> 01:06:30,839
we work for the president of the united

1863
01:06:36,150 --> 01:06:34,160
states whoever he or she might be

1864
01:06:38,069 --> 01:06:36,160
the president of the united states is

1865
01:06:39,829 --> 01:06:38,079
our customer

1866
01:06:43,109 --> 01:06:39,839
and we provide the president with the

1867
01:06:45,829 --> 01:06:43,119
best intelligence that we can

1868
01:06:47,750 --> 01:06:45,839
provide at the time and the billions of

1869
01:06:50,470 --> 01:06:47,760
dollars we spent

1870
01:06:52,390 --> 01:06:50,480
upwards of 90 billion dollars

1871
01:06:53,589 --> 01:06:52,400
to provide this intelligence with

1872
01:06:55,349 --> 01:06:53,599
everything that we do in the

1873
01:06:57,109 --> 01:06:55,359
intelligence community

1874
01:06:59,190 --> 01:06:57,119
and so

1875
01:07:01,910 --> 01:06:59,200
here are the decisions that you can make

1876
01:07:03,270 --> 01:07:01,920
you know right make good use of what we

1877
01:07:04,390 --> 01:07:03,280
invested in

1878
01:07:06,390 --> 01:07:04,400
and so if you don't like what we're

1879
01:07:07,270 --> 01:07:06,400
doing look at who's sitting in the oval

1880
01:07:08,870 --> 01:07:07,280
office

1881
01:07:10,470 --> 01:07:08,880
that's the reason

1882
01:07:13,190 --> 01:07:10,480
and a lot of people do think that you

1883
01:07:15,109 --> 01:07:13,200
know i think more people are

1884
01:07:18,069 --> 01:07:15,119
are super quick to blame whoever's in

1885
01:07:20,470 --> 01:07:18,079
office um but in our community

1886
01:07:22,630 --> 01:07:20,480
there's so much um

1887
01:07:25,190 --> 01:07:22,640
you know people don't trust the cia and

1888
01:07:27,910 --> 01:07:25,200
i try to look at it you know

1889
01:07:29,430 --> 01:07:27,920
like outside of myself sometimes and

1890
01:07:31,109 --> 01:07:29,440
just say like

1891
01:07:32,309 --> 01:07:31,119
like everybody is doing what they're

1892
01:07:34,950 --> 01:07:32,319
told to do and when you're in the

1893
01:07:37,750 --> 01:07:34,960
military or when you're in the cia

1894
01:07:39,750 --> 01:07:37,760
um you just you're trained to do your

1895
01:07:41,910 --> 01:07:39,760
job and even if it's going to upset

1896
01:07:43,430 --> 01:07:41,920
people or like your job is just to not

1897
01:07:45,430 --> 01:07:43,440
say anything

1898
01:07:47,589 --> 01:07:45,440
even if you know like it's a technology

1899
01:07:49,910 --> 01:07:47,599
you learned something that could benefit

1900
01:07:51,270 --> 01:07:49,920
the world first of all who would listen

1901
01:07:53,750 --> 01:07:51,280
because the people that are talking to

1902
01:07:56,069 --> 01:07:53,760
the ca look at the scrutiny you've had

1903
01:07:58,470 --> 01:07:56,079
you know what i mean like so say some ca

1904
01:07:59,829 --> 01:07:58,480
comes out cia guy comes out says there's

1905
01:08:02,950 --> 01:07:59,839
free energy and this is how it works

1906
01:08:06,230 --> 01:08:02,960
people are still not gonna believe it so

1907
01:08:08,549 --> 01:08:06,240
um it's a tough thing to

1908
01:08:10,630 --> 01:08:08,559
i can't you can't blame any one agency i

1909
01:08:11,750 --> 01:08:10,640
don't think you know what i mean because

1910
01:08:12,950 --> 01:08:11,760
everybody's kind of hoarding their

1911
01:08:14,470 --> 01:08:12,960
information to begin with it's a

1912
01:08:16,309 --> 01:08:14,480
collective thing that needs to happen

1913
01:08:18,470 --> 01:08:16,319
the sharing of information

1914
01:08:20,390 --> 01:08:18,480
and you even mention this in your slides

1915
01:08:21,590 --> 01:08:20,400
with like the whole 9 11 situation like

1916
01:08:23,430 --> 01:08:21,600
that could have been you know the

1917
01:08:25,669 --> 01:08:23,440
sharing of information has only heard

1918
01:08:28,309 --> 01:08:25,679
the not the lack of sharing information

1919
01:08:29,349 --> 01:08:28,319
has only hurt us as a country and as a

1920
01:08:31,269 --> 01:08:29,359
world

1921
01:08:32,390 --> 01:08:31,279
but you're right we used some of this

1922
01:08:34,390 --> 01:08:32,400
knowledge

1923
01:08:36,149 --> 01:08:34,400
to hurt others and

1924
01:08:37,669 --> 01:08:36,159
and i just i can't i can't remember

1925
01:08:39,110 --> 01:08:37,679
learning about how we were just throwing

1926
01:08:40,870 --> 01:08:39,120
nukes up in space and throwing them in

1927
01:08:41,749 --> 01:08:40,880
the water you know um

1928
01:08:43,749 --> 01:08:41,759
and

1929
01:08:45,110 --> 01:08:43,759
that's the water it's the ocean like i

1930
01:08:46,709 --> 01:08:45,120
remember thinking like how can you do

1931
01:08:47,829 --> 01:08:46,719
that it's the ocean

1932
01:08:48,709 --> 01:08:47,839
like

1933
01:08:50,870 --> 01:08:48,719
you're just

1934
01:08:52,870 --> 01:08:50,880
setting nukes off in the ocean like we

1935
01:08:54,950 --> 01:08:52,880
know energy

1936
01:08:56,709 --> 01:08:54,960
cannot be created it just goes somewhere

1937
01:08:58,950 --> 01:08:56,719
else so why are we doing this especially

1938
01:09:00,550 --> 01:08:58,960
with radioactive energy like that that

1939
01:09:02,229 --> 01:09:00,560
we don't even know the effects of some

1940
01:09:04,470 --> 01:09:02,239
of it

1941
01:09:05,510 --> 01:09:04,480
so um of course james has another great

1942
01:09:06,870 --> 01:09:05,520
question and i mean that in a good way

1943
01:09:09,669 --> 01:09:06,880
james said it wasn't like oh my god jane

1944
01:09:11,829 --> 01:09:09,679
yeah i mean it in a good way um has john

1945
01:09:14,470 --> 01:09:11,839
ever been initiated into any of the

1946
01:09:17,269 --> 01:09:14,480
mystery schools or did he do work with

1947
01:09:19,590 --> 01:09:17,279
merkaba or flower of life work

1948
01:09:21,030 --> 01:09:19,600
no i have not uh been initiating into

1949
01:09:24,630 --> 01:09:21,040
the mystery schools what i know about

1950
01:09:25,510 --> 01:09:24,640
the uh merkaba or merkabah uh was from

1951
01:09:27,829 --> 01:09:25,520
um

1952
01:09:30,550 --> 01:09:27,839
my light workers

1953
01:09:31,510 --> 01:09:30,560
and working with them and so

1954
01:09:32,470 --> 01:09:31,520
um

1955
01:09:38,390 --> 01:09:32,480
i've

1956
01:09:40,309 --> 01:09:38,400
i do i

1957
01:09:41,749 --> 01:09:40,319
i he used to live in sedona arizona i

1958
01:09:43,189 --> 01:09:41,759
don't know if he's still there oh my

1959
01:09:45,430 --> 01:09:43,199
gosh i would love it

1960
01:09:47,590 --> 01:09:45,440
oh my gosh because i put that in a slide

1961
01:09:49,349 --> 01:09:47,600
he wrote he wrote a book living in the

1962
01:09:51,110 --> 01:09:49,359
heart was it living in the heart i

1963
01:09:53,590 --> 01:09:51,120
forget the title

1964
01:09:55,510 --> 01:09:53,600
uh shame on me what's in my slide you

1965
01:09:57,350 --> 01:09:55,520
just need to make a reading list for

1966
01:09:59,910 --> 01:09:57,360
yeah for all of us weirdos

1967
01:10:02,709 --> 01:09:59,920
and uh you know he he wrote about this

1968
01:10:05,110 --> 01:10:02,719
air force major telling him that

1969
01:10:08,470 --> 01:10:05,120
the air force satellites can see the

1970
01:10:09,430 --> 01:10:08,480
mccoffee field being generated by humans

1971
01:10:11,510 --> 01:10:09,440
and they were

1972
01:10:13,110 --> 01:10:11,520
worried about it but then they realized

1973
01:10:14,790 --> 01:10:13,120
it was just part of this greater

1974
01:10:16,709 --> 01:10:14,800
consciousness higher consciousness

1975
01:10:18,470 --> 01:10:16,719
taking over the earth

1976
01:10:21,590 --> 01:10:18,480
and that to me is a profound statement

1977
01:10:23,590 --> 01:10:21,600
from an air force officer right and i i

1978
01:10:25,669 --> 01:10:23,600
wish i could talk to him more about it

1979
01:10:28,229 --> 01:10:25,679
who how did he meet the air force

1980
01:10:31,030 --> 01:10:28,239
officer or how the air force officer

1981
01:10:32,790 --> 01:10:31,040
contacted him and what scenario that uh

1982
01:10:34,229 --> 01:10:32,800
he had this conversation

1983
01:10:36,550 --> 01:10:34,239
uh but things like that are hard to

1984
01:10:38,149 --> 01:10:36,560
prove and you know i mean oh yeah it's

1985
01:10:39,910 --> 01:10:38,159
like nobody wants to listen without the

1986
01:10:41,750 --> 01:10:39,920
proof you have to you have to have an

1987
01:10:44,550 --> 01:10:41,760
experience and even when you have the

1988
01:10:45,830 --> 01:10:44,560
experience it's like what is wrong with

1989
01:10:47,270 --> 01:10:45,840
me what just happened like you

1990
01:10:49,350 --> 01:10:47,280
automatically start doubting yourself

1991
01:10:53,030 --> 01:10:49,360
when you experience something

1992
01:10:54,070 --> 01:10:53,040
um extreme or different or paranormal um

1993
01:10:56,310 --> 01:10:54,080
so

1994
01:10:58,550 --> 01:10:56,320
yeah i feel like people are just i think

1995
01:11:01,430 --> 01:10:58,560
the people limit themselves you know um

1996
01:11:03,189 --> 01:11:01,440
when they only think one way but

1997
01:11:04,470 --> 01:11:03,199
um i'm willing to listen to people's

1998
01:11:07,510 --> 01:11:04,480
proof and i'm willing to listen to

1999
01:11:09,350 --> 01:11:07,520
people's you know

2000
01:11:11,990 --> 01:11:09,360
spirituality or

2001
01:11:13,750 --> 01:11:12,000
occult studies anything really i just i

2002
01:11:14,630 --> 01:11:13,760
find it all interesting

2003
01:11:16,470 --> 01:11:14,640
um

2004
01:11:19,270 --> 01:11:16,480
that we have all these like

2005
01:11:22,229 --> 01:11:19,280
energetic things happening um but that

2006
01:11:23,350 --> 01:11:22,239
brings me to a question uh the orbs and

2007
01:11:25,270 --> 01:11:23,360
don't worry everybody i'm gonna take the

2008
01:11:27,110 --> 01:11:25,280
last couple of minutes for questions

2009
01:11:28,630 --> 01:11:27,120
because i see eve has another question

2010
01:11:29,910 --> 01:11:28,640
um but it's going to take us another

2011
01:11:31,510 --> 01:11:29,920
direction so i'm going to ask this first

2012
01:11:33,110 --> 01:11:31,520
and then i'll get to your question

2013
01:11:35,430 --> 01:11:33,120
um

2014
01:11:37,830 --> 01:11:35,440
the orbs you've mentioned the orbs and

2015
01:11:38,790 --> 01:11:37,840
i've wondered about them because so many

2016
01:11:40,390 --> 01:11:38,800
people

2017
01:11:41,590 --> 01:11:40,400
have experienced

2018
01:11:43,510 --> 01:11:41,600
orbs

2019
01:11:45,830 --> 01:11:43,520
and some people

2020
01:11:46,870 --> 01:11:45,840
claim to have like interacted with the

2021
01:11:48,229 --> 01:11:46,880
orb

2022
01:11:51,189 --> 01:11:48,239
and then

2023
01:11:52,709 --> 01:11:51,199
being shown who's inside of it

2024
01:11:54,950 --> 01:11:52,719
or what's inside of it i think it's a

2025
01:11:56,790 --> 01:11:54,960
who but you know um

2026
01:11:58,630 --> 01:11:56,800
that's up to whatever people i don't

2027
01:12:00,870 --> 01:11:58,640
know if they identify as a who or maybe

2028
01:12:03,189 --> 01:12:00,880
they're above the whole i identify as

2029
01:12:04,709 --> 01:12:03,199
this and that but uh yeah so what what

2030
01:12:06,390 --> 01:12:04,719
is up with the orbs what do you think is

2031
01:12:08,390 --> 01:12:06,400
happening and why do people see that i

2032
01:12:10,790 --> 01:12:08,400
feel like people see that more

2033
01:12:12,870 --> 01:12:10,800
than um you know like the metallic ships

2034
01:12:15,510 --> 01:12:12,880
or even like tic tac cigar like people

2035
01:12:17,750 --> 01:12:15,520
see these orbs during the day time

2036
01:12:19,830 --> 01:12:17,760
sometimes people are filming

2037
01:12:21,990 --> 01:12:19,840
um like i remember one day i did a

2038
01:12:23,830 --> 01:12:22,000
meditation to initiate contact and i was

2039
01:12:26,310 --> 01:12:23,840
i had my little iphone up to the sky and

2040
01:12:28,950 --> 01:12:26,320
i was looking at my ipad up and i was i

2041
01:12:30,229 --> 01:12:28,960
could see something moving around but i

2042
01:12:31,750 --> 01:12:30,239
couldn't see with my eyes but i could

2043
01:12:34,070 --> 01:12:31,760
see it in the screen and sometimes it's

2044
01:12:36,310 --> 01:12:34,080
vice versa so what what are the what do

2045
01:12:39,030 --> 01:12:36,320
you think the orbs are doing what are

2046
01:12:41,590 --> 01:12:39,040
they here for or what is their purpose

2047
01:12:43,669 --> 01:12:41,600
or have you had any experience with them

2048
01:12:45,830 --> 01:12:43,679
yes i have personal experiences with

2049
01:12:47,830 --> 01:12:45,840
them let me start with the professional

2050
01:12:50,149 --> 01:12:47,840
experience

2051
01:12:54,070 --> 01:12:50,159
we detected orbs

2052
01:12:57,270 --> 01:12:54,080
from space

2053
01:12:59,189 --> 01:12:57,280
from some of our nro platforms we had

2054
01:13:00,310 --> 01:12:59,199
sensors that can look into the infrared

2055
01:13:02,390 --> 01:13:00,320
region

2056
01:13:04,550 --> 01:13:02,400
and these sensors originally rode on

2057
01:13:07,189 --> 01:13:04,560
another type of satellite that didn't

2058
01:13:09,669 --> 01:13:07,199
collect this type of infrared but when

2059
01:13:11,830 --> 01:13:09,679
we build a satellite uh real briefly i

2060
01:13:14,149 --> 01:13:11,840
won't get too much into the details but

2061
01:13:16,630 --> 01:13:14,159
when we build a satellite uh we build it

2062
01:13:19,350 --> 01:13:16,640
for a certain purpose and it might be

2063
01:13:21,910 --> 01:13:19,360
more space on that satellite to put

2064
01:13:24,310 --> 01:13:21,920
other capabilities and as long as we can

2065
01:13:26,630 --> 01:13:24,320
provide power and space

2066
01:13:28,870 --> 01:13:26,640
for that other capability that paid load

2067
01:13:30,310 --> 01:13:28,880
might be inserted into the satellite

2068
01:13:31,830 --> 01:13:30,320
which is doing something else as a

2069
01:13:33,270 --> 01:13:31,840
primary mission and this could be a

2070
01:13:36,070 --> 01:13:33,280
secondary mission so one of those

2071
01:13:37,510 --> 01:13:36,080
satellites actually detected uh this

2072
01:13:43,110 --> 01:13:37,520
light energy

2073
01:13:45,990 --> 01:13:43,120
it you know the first thing that comes

2074
01:13:47,590 --> 01:13:46,000
to mind is that okay something is broke

2075
01:13:49,669 --> 01:13:47,600
because what is this

2076
01:13:51,590 --> 01:13:49,679
um and so that's what's launched an

2077
01:13:53,189 --> 01:13:51,600
investigation into it and when we

2078
01:13:55,110 --> 01:13:53,199
actually built

2079
01:13:56,229 --> 01:13:55,120
a satellite with where the primary

2080
01:14:00,310 --> 01:13:56,239
mission

2081
01:14:02,870 --> 01:14:00,320
was um infrared electro-optical infrared

2082
01:14:05,430 --> 01:14:02,880
and i can now say this because the 60th

2083
01:14:08,470 --> 01:14:05,440
anniversary in a row brochure said yes

2084
01:14:11,590 --> 01:14:08,480
we have a kh-11 kenan and yes it's an

2085
01:14:13,189 --> 01:14:11,600
electro optical satellite that we fly in

2086
01:14:14,390 --> 01:14:13,199
oral flies okay

2087
01:14:16,390 --> 01:14:14,400
so that

2088
01:14:17,510 --> 01:14:16,400
type of platform

2089
01:14:20,070 --> 01:14:17,520
um

2090
01:14:21,750 --> 01:14:20,080
is more of a scientific collector it can

2091
01:14:24,950 --> 01:14:21,760
actually measure

2092
01:14:26,550 --> 01:14:24,960
energies radiance and other capabilities

2093
01:14:28,950 --> 01:14:26,560
more technically about the orbs so

2094
01:14:31,430 --> 01:14:28,960
they're they're basically energy

2095
01:14:34,550 --> 01:14:31,440
they're just energy um as far as seeing

2096
01:14:36,149 --> 01:14:34,560
anything into them um i don't remember

2097
01:14:37,830 --> 01:14:36,159
that anyone said oh my gosh there's

2098
01:14:39,510 --> 01:14:37,840
something inside these orbs right it's

2099
01:14:42,229 --> 01:14:39,520
just laws of energy

2100
01:14:44,870 --> 01:14:42,239
spheres of energy that tend to like form

2101
01:14:46,229 --> 01:14:44,880
and form uh form together like in a

2102
01:14:47,030 --> 01:14:46,239
formation

2103
01:14:49,430 --> 01:14:47,040
of

2104
01:14:51,030 --> 01:14:49,440
going to some place with intent

2105
01:14:52,070 --> 01:14:51,040
so you would think they're intelligently

2106
01:14:53,750 --> 01:14:52,080
controlled

2107
01:14:55,910 --> 01:14:53,760
right so that's from the technical side

2108
01:14:58,070 --> 01:14:55,920
now from the personal experience side

2109
01:15:00,709 --> 01:14:58,080
people have seen things in these orbs

2110
01:15:03,110 --> 01:15:00,719
when they come close to them

2111
01:15:06,149 --> 01:15:03,120
my understanding is that

2112
01:15:08,709 --> 01:15:06,159
i think chris bledsoe maybe his son ryan

2113
01:15:10,950 --> 01:15:08,719
they saw one of their pet dogs who was

2114
01:15:12,790 --> 01:15:10,960
deceased and the org

2115
01:15:15,189 --> 01:15:12,800
now does that mean that the orb is the

2116
01:15:17,590 --> 01:15:15,199
manifestation of the dog's spirit

2117
01:15:19,030 --> 01:15:17,600
or is it because the orb wants to

2118
01:15:21,030 --> 01:15:19,040
communicate with you

2119
01:15:23,030 --> 01:15:21,040
right knows

2120
01:15:25,669 --> 01:15:23,040
it knows what you're thinking about or

2121
01:15:27,110 --> 01:15:25,679
what's on your mind and it reflects back

2122
01:15:28,790 --> 01:15:27,120
yeah like i'm a friend your dog was a

2123
01:15:30,229 --> 01:15:28,800
friend i'm a friend you know like

2124
01:15:31,750 --> 01:15:30,239
something like that it's a way of

2125
01:15:35,270 --> 01:15:31,760
communicating

2126
01:15:37,189 --> 01:15:35,280
um and so that's my personal belief i've

2127
01:15:39,910 --> 01:15:37,199
not seen an orb close up

2128
01:15:42,630 --> 01:15:39,920
right and prior to going to sedona

2129
01:15:44,950 --> 01:15:42,640
arizona with melinda leslie and her ufo

2130
01:15:47,910 --> 01:15:44,960
sighting tour i've only seen like two

2131
01:15:50,709 --> 01:15:47,920
orbs in my life other than the one ice

2132
01:15:52,630 --> 01:15:50,719
was presented to me professionally

2133
01:15:55,510 --> 01:15:52,640
so there's two personal orbs in my life

2134
01:15:57,830 --> 01:15:55,520
in it uh the first case it was uh from

2135
01:15:59,990 --> 01:15:57,840
an airplane where the pilot reported to

2136
01:16:01,669 --> 01:16:00,000
the ground that there's this

2137
01:16:03,830 --> 01:16:01,679
orange sphere

2138
01:16:05,030 --> 01:16:03,840
coming across in front of his flight

2139
01:16:07,590 --> 01:16:05,040
path

2140
01:16:09,270 --> 01:16:07,600
going from his uh left side to the right

2141
01:16:11,830 --> 01:16:09,280
side i was sitting on the right side of

2142
01:16:14,390 --> 01:16:11,840
the plane i was monitoring um channel

2143
01:16:16,390 --> 01:16:14,400
one united airlines they used to before

2144
01:16:18,149 --> 01:16:16,400
9 11 allow you to hear the

2145
01:16:19,030 --> 01:16:18,159
communications between the cockpit and

2146
01:16:20,950 --> 01:16:19,040
the ground

2147
01:16:22,229 --> 01:16:20,960
airflow

2148
01:16:23,350 --> 01:16:22,239
so

2149
01:16:25,350 --> 01:16:23,360
i opened

2150
01:16:27,510 --> 01:16:25,360
up my screen i think maybe it was

2151
01:16:28,709 --> 01:16:27,520
already open and there it was an orange

2152
01:16:31,030 --> 01:16:28,719
orb

2153
01:16:33,510 --> 01:16:31,040
and it it kept pace with us it didn't

2154
01:16:35,830 --> 01:16:33,520
just zoom away it kept pace with us

2155
01:16:38,390 --> 01:16:35,840
and then it slowly receded away and it

2156
01:16:40,470 --> 01:16:38,400
wasn't like it was shiny or right it

2157
01:16:42,630 --> 01:16:40,480
wasn't like it was like a flame or

2158
01:16:43,910 --> 01:16:42,640
anything it was just like

2159
01:16:46,070 --> 01:16:43,920
someone

2160
01:16:48,790 --> 01:16:46,080
went to michael's and got orange

2161
01:16:50,790 --> 01:16:48,800
construction paper very very bright

2162
01:16:53,430 --> 01:16:50,800
and cut out a circle you know it was

2163
01:16:55,590 --> 01:16:53,440
just there it wasn't like flashing it so

2164
01:16:58,390 --> 01:16:55,600
i know it's not an afterburner

2165
01:17:00,630 --> 01:16:58,400
of his aircraft or anything like that

2166
01:17:03,030 --> 01:17:00,640
um and so happened the synchronicity

2167
01:17:05,590 --> 01:17:03,040
with this i was sitting next to

2168
01:17:07,990 --> 01:17:05,600
my colleague a cia officer we paid for

2169
01:17:10,630 --> 01:17:08,000
our own ticket

2170
01:17:13,430 --> 01:17:10,640
on the plane uh own hotel rooms and

2171
01:17:15,270 --> 01:17:13,440
conference fees to go to ufo conference

2172
01:17:16,870 --> 01:17:15,280
in irvine california

2173
01:17:20,709 --> 01:17:16,880
so i was going to a ufo conference and

2174
01:17:22,950 --> 01:17:20,719
here i see this high corb yeah um and so

2175
01:17:25,510 --> 01:17:22,960
that was the synchronicity and i didn't

2176
01:17:27,189 --> 01:17:25,520
get any message from it you know other

2177
01:17:29,990 --> 01:17:27,199
than wow that's that's one of those

2178
01:17:31,189 --> 01:17:30,000
things there it is yeah um and he was

2179
01:17:32,870 --> 01:17:31,199
asleep

2180
01:17:35,350 --> 01:17:32,880
so i didn't have a witness there but i

2181
01:17:37,350 --> 01:17:35,360
have the pilot um

2182
01:17:39,669 --> 01:17:37,360
and the second orb i saw was at a

2183
01:17:41,270 --> 01:17:39,679
distance uh over the santa catalina

2184
01:17:43,030 --> 01:17:41,280
mountains here in tucson

2185
01:17:45,030 --> 01:17:43,040
where we did this

2186
01:17:48,070 --> 01:17:45,040
ce6

2187
01:17:49,270 --> 01:17:48,080
meditation with mark sims he uses radios

2188
01:17:52,149 --> 01:17:49,280
to send

2189
01:17:52,950 --> 01:17:52,159
a signal out yeah and then

2190
01:17:55,030 --> 01:17:52,960
he

2191
01:17:56,950 --> 01:17:55,040
uh tones hu

2192
01:17:59,750 --> 01:17:56,960
who or hugh

2193
01:18:01,430 --> 01:17:59,760
and a few minutes later looking up both

2194
01:18:04,149 --> 01:18:01,440
my wife and i saw this

2195
01:18:05,910 --> 01:18:04,159
i saw it straight ahead and she saw it

2196
01:18:08,709 --> 01:18:05,920
to her right

2197
01:18:10,950 --> 01:18:08,719
side so she saw something but she should

2198
01:18:12,950 --> 01:18:10,960
have seen it to her left because she's

2199
01:18:15,350 --> 01:18:12,960
seated oh

2200
01:18:17,030 --> 01:18:15,360
on my right and so if she was looking at

2201
01:18:18,310 --> 01:18:17,040
it she would have seen it

2202
01:18:20,310 --> 01:18:18,320
that's the thing

2203
01:18:22,149 --> 01:18:20,320
but she didn't see that and i saw it and

2204
01:18:27,030 --> 01:18:22,159
that's when i got the message

2205
01:18:27,910 --> 01:18:27,040
on july 14 2020 which was my birthday um

2206
01:18:29,669 --> 01:18:27,920
that

2207
01:18:31,350 --> 01:18:29,679
i have information to share and it's

2208
01:18:33,030 --> 01:18:31,360
time for you to share it

2209
01:18:35,430 --> 01:18:33,040
and you need to help someone there's

2210
01:18:36,950 --> 01:18:35,440
someone out there who's searching for

2211
01:18:38,630 --> 01:18:36,960
your help

2212
01:18:40,630 --> 01:18:38,640
and uh so

2213
01:18:41,350 --> 01:18:40,640
here i am sharing my experiences with

2214
01:18:42,550 --> 01:18:41,360
you

2215
01:18:45,270 --> 01:18:42,560
um

2216
01:18:46,390 --> 01:18:45,280
with everyone who tunes in to uh my

2217
01:18:49,110 --> 01:18:46,400
interviews

2218
01:18:50,790 --> 01:18:49,120
um and i have met the person that i was

2219
01:18:53,750 --> 01:18:50,800
supposed to work with oh wow working

2220
01:18:55,669 --> 01:18:53,760
with with him now just

2221
01:18:58,550 --> 01:18:55,679
sharing experiences

2222
01:19:01,030 --> 01:18:58,560
and that's that's what i love doing more

2223
01:19:03,110 --> 01:19:01,040
than like talking about

2224
01:19:04,550 --> 01:19:03,120
craft and bodies yeah

2225
01:19:06,870 --> 01:19:04,560
there's people working on that there's

2226
01:19:08,310 --> 01:19:06,880
people working on that there's you know

2227
01:19:09,590 --> 01:19:08,320
we've got an office now like people are

2228
01:19:11,110 --> 01:19:09,600
going to work on that you know we've got

2229
01:19:12,149 --> 01:19:11,120
telescopes crazy telescopes going on

2230
01:19:13,430 --> 01:19:12,159
right

2231
01:19:14,950 --> 01:19:13,440
no one serves people we need to take

2232
01:19:17,750 --> 01:19:14,960
care of the human we need to take care

2233
01:19:19,270 --> 01:19:17,760
of exactly you know our fellow humans

2234
01:19:20,709 --> 01:19:19,280
and i think people like us like we could

2235
01:19:22,149 --> 01:19:20,719
go that route especially you like i'm

2236
01:19:24,229 --> 01:19:22,159
sure you know so much that you know

2237
01:19:27,110 --> 01:19:24,239
you're not you can't even talk about so

2238
01:19:29,189 --> 01:19:27,120
but at the same time like is all the

2239
01:19:31,030 --> 01:19:29,199
knowledge in the world gonna help if

2240
01:19:32,630 --> 01:19:31,040
you're just collecting

2241
01:19:34,470 --> 01:19:32,640
materials without understanding it or

2242
01:19:36,790 --> 01:19:34,480
understanding the why behind it there's

2243
01:19:39,110 --> 01:19:36,800
people doing that so i'm glad that

2244
01:19:40,709 --> 01:19:39,120
you're comfortable with um

2245
01:19:42,550 --> 01:19:40,719
just putting your message out there and

2246
01:19:43,830 --> 01:19:42,560
then being there for other people as

2247
01:19:45,669 --> 01:19:43,840
well and i'm glad that you found that

2248
01:19:47,590 --> 01:19:45,679
person that's amazing yeah and that's

2249
01:19:49,270 --> 01:19:47,600
what i want to do i mean um there would

2250
01:19:50,950 --> 01:19:49,280
be a time when i would love to stop

2251
01:19:53,270 --> 01:19:50,960
talking about what we're talking about

2252
01:19:54,070 --> 01:19:53,280
and just helping people

2253
01:19:56,149 --> 01:19:54,080
and

2254
01:19:57,990 --> 01:19:56,159
helping them find resources because i

2255
01:20:00,870 --> 01:19:58,000
know some people have some disturbing

2256
01:20:02,550 --> 01:20:00,880
aspects to the phenomenon and

2257
01:20:03,590 --> 01:20:02,560
they're seeking answers and i'm not a

2258
01:20:06,229 --> 01:20:03,600
therapist

2259
01:20:09,110 --> 01:20:06,239
but i can direct them to resources

2260
01:20:10,229 --> 01:20:09,120
right um and so i i like doing that type

2261
01:20:12,629 --> 01:20:10,239
of work

2262
01:20:15,110 --> 01:20:12,639
more so than just you know i don't care

2263
01:20:16,390 --> 01:20:15,120
how they fly or who's driving them as

2264
01:20:18,390 --> 01:20:16,400
much

2265
01:20:19,750 --> 01:20:18,400
i do care why they're here and what the

2266
01:20:22,390 --> 01:20:19,760
message is

2267
01:20:25,510 --> 01:20:22,400
to us and it seems more like

2268
01:20:28,149 --> 01:20:25,520
the need to be better custody custodians

2269
01:20:30,070 --> 01:20:28,159
of this planet because it is highly

2270
01:20:31,270 --> 01:20:30,080
fragile and we can destroy it in a

2271
01:20:33,910 --> 01:20:31,280
heartbeat

2272
01:20:36,550 --> 01:20:33,920
by making the wrong human decision you

2273
01:20:38,550 --> 01:20:36,560
know and so to me that's more important

2274
01:20:40,229 --> 01:20:38,560
than the nuts i

2275
01:20:41,990 --> 01:20:40,239
well i'll use the word nuts and bolts

2276
01:20:45,430 --> 01:20:42,000
you know they don't have nuts and bolts

2277
01:20:49,510 --> 01:20:45,440
um of the appearance to us so

2278
01:20:53,910 --> 01:20:52,070
their lives are transformed in some way

2279
01:20:55,750 --> 01:20:53,920
and mostly positive

2280
01:20:58,310 --> 01:20:55,760
that when people see orbs you know they

2281
01:21:00,390 --> 01:20:58,320
all suddenly become interested in this

2282
01:21:02,390 --> 01:21:00,400
entire phenomenon and try to seek

2283
01:21:03,510 --> 01:21:02,400
meaning personal meaning for their own

2284
01:21:05,350 --> 01:21:03,520
lives

2285
01:21:07,669 --> 01:21:05,360
but they're in a situation family

2286
01:21:10,229 --> 01:21:07,679
friends or work where they can't share

2287
01:21:13,430 --> 01:21:10,239
it it it really tears at them

2288
01:21:15,990 --> 01:21:13,440
and so i i i would like to i think what

2289
01:21:21,189 --> 01:21:18,390
stuart and jay are doing with the

2290
01:21:24,149 --> 01:21:21,199
experiences group is valuable they need

2291
01:21:27,030 --> 01:21:24,159
to be more experiences groups out there

2292
01:21:29,270 --> 01:21:27,040
who are welcoming and not judgmental but

2293
01:21:31,669 --> 01:21:29,280
sharing what our experiences are like

2294
01:21:33,990 --> 01:21:31,679
whether they may be good or bad

2295
01:21:36,070 --> 01:21:34,000
um people need to talk about this

2296
01:21:38,709 --> 01:21:36,080
absolutely like you said let let the

2297
01:21:40,790 --> 01:21:38,719
scientists and physicists do their thing

2298
01:21:42,550 --> 01:21:40,800
yeah but for us

2299
01:21:43,990 --> 01:21:42,560
yeah we need to talk

2300
01:21:45,590 --> 01:21:44,000
absolutely

2301
01:21:47,750 --> 01:21:45,600
and sometimes that's all people need is

2302
01:21:49,270 --> 01:21:47,760
to just talk about it you know um just

2303
01:21:50,950 --> 01:21:49,280
hearing what you said right now i was

2304
01:21:52,870 --> 01:21:50,960
like oh crap i'm gonna start crying

2305
01:21:54,310 --> 01:21:52,880
because it's it's real like um i try to

2306
01:21:56,870 --> 01:21:54,320
explain to people like when i saw those

2307
01:21:59,030 --> 01:21:56,880
orbs when i was young um they were

2308
01:22:01,350 --> 01:21:59,040
sentient they were giving me a vibe and

2309
01:22:03,270 --> 01:22:01,360
from that point on i was a weirdo and i

2310
01:22:05,189 --> 01:22:03,280
researched every religion since once i

2311
01:22:07,110 --> 01:22:05,199
started being able to read

2312
01:22:08,950 --> 01:22:07,120
my every book i could find anything

2313
01:22:11,990 --> 01:22:08,960
anybody i could ask you know every all

2314
01:22:13,590 --> 01:22:12,000
of it and um already having you know a

2315
01:22:15,750 --> 01:22:13,600
paranormal activity in the house because

2316
01:22:17,750 --> 01:22:15,760
my grandma being a medium

2317
01:22:19,750 --> 01:22:17,760
was like i was already open to that

2318
01:22:22,790 --> 01:22:19,760
world and i was very aware of angels and

2319
01:22:26,070 --> 01:22:22,800
demons and spirits but this was

2320
01:22:27,189 --> 01:22:26,080
something else it was that um

2321
01:22:28,870 --> 01:22:27,199
it was a

2322
01:22:32,149 --> 01:22:28,880
like it opened my mind in a different

2323
01:22:33,189 --> 01:22:32,159
way like how can you ever see anything

2324
01:22:34,550 --> 01:22:33,199
as

2325
01:22:36,470 --> 01:22:34,560
mundane

2326
01:22:38,390 --> 01:22:36,480
as some people see it

2327
01:22:40,950 --> 01:22:38,400
um ever again so

2328
01:22:42,950 --> 01:22:40,960
it does change people's lives um

2329
01:22:44,470 --> 01:22:42,960
so we're coming up on the hour and a

2330
01:22:46,950 --> 01:22:44,480
half do you have time for a couple of

2331
01:22:48,310 --> 01:22:46,960
questions sure absolutely i'm here

2332
01:22:50,870 --> 01:22:48,320
whenever

2333
01:22:53,830 --> 01:22:50,880
awesome awesome

2334
01:22:56,629 --> 01:22:53,840
so this is from eve clancy she says has

2335
01:22:57,510 --> 01:22:56,639
john heard what ross cultart has said

2336
01:23:00,310 --> 01:22:57,520
about

2337
01:23:03,189 --> 01:23:00,320
what high us officials have told him

2338
01:23:06,550 --> 01:23:03,199
about et's being from the future and

2339
01:23:09,270 --> 01:23:06,560
does he have an opinion about that i

2340
01:23:10,390 --> 01:23:09,280
have heard that story in fact not

2341
01:23:12,629 --> 01:23:10,400
officially

2342
01:23:15,110 --> 01:23:12,639
but just through my own research and

2343
01:23:16,550 --> 01:23:15,120
trying to put the answer together for

2344
01:23:20,310 --> 01:23:16,560
myself

2345
01:23:22,629 --> 01:23:20,320
that they could be um

2346
01:23:24,310 --> 01:23:22,639
manifestations of either us from the

2347
01:23:25,270 --> 01:23:24,320
future or

2348
01:23:30,070 --> 01:23:25,280
um

2349
01:23:31,510 --> 01:23:30,080
an intelligence who are who's able to

2350
01:23:34,790 --> 01:23:31,520
uh tran

2351
01:23:36,550 --> 01:23:34,800
transverse the temporal plane

2352
01:23:38,870 --> 01:23:36,560
and when you you just can't go through

2353
01:23:40,709 --> 01:23:38,880
time without affecting space

2354
01:23:43,590 --> 01:23:40,719
right and when you affect time and space

2355
01:23:46,709 --> 01:23:43,600
the the way you bend time and space is

2356
01:23:49,990 --> 01:23:46,719
not anti-gravity but lots of gravity

2357
01:23:53,189 --> 01:23:50,000
when you have like a highly dense

2358
01:23:54,229 --> 01:23:53,199
singularity of gravity of mass

2359
01:23:57,270 --> 01:23:54,239
you know

2360
01:23:58,550 --> 01:23:57,280
all of a sudden space and time gets bent

2361
01:24:00,950 --> 01:23:58,560
and so

2362
01:24:03,590 --> 01:24:00,960
some aspects of people encountering

2363
01:24:06,550 --> 01:24:03,600
these craft

2364
01:24:09,590 --> 01:24:06,560
involves like a time displacement yes

2365
01:24:11,910 --> 01:24:09,600
they're missing time and it could be a

2366
01:24:13,990 --> 01:24:11,920
and i'm not a physicist by any means i'm

2367
01:24:15,350 --> 01:24:14,000
political scientist

2368
01:24:17,590 --> 01:24:15,360
but

2369
01:24:19,590 --> 01:24:17,600
it could be a manifestation of some type

2370
01:24:21,750 --> 01:24:19,600
of propulsion system that does the

2371
01:24:24,149 --> 01:24:21,760
bending of time and space

2372
01:24:26,229 --> 01:24:24,159
uh to be here and so

2373
01:24:28,629 --> 01:24:26,239
um

2374
01:24:31,990 --> 01:24:28,639
i've not heard from any us government

2375
01:24:34,470 --> 01:24:32,000
official about the time aspect

2376
01:24:37,750 --> 01:24:34,480
but i'm if they are studying that that

2377
01:24:38,870 --> 01:24:37,760
just tells you something that

2378
01:24:42,950 --> 01:24:38,880
nothing

2379
01:24:46,149 --> 01:24:42,960
table they are

2380
01:24:47,510 --> 01:24:46,159
looking at every possibility to explain

2381
01:24:50,070 --> 01:24:47,520
the phenomenon

2382
01:24:52,629 --> 01:24:50,080
so to the government nothing is

2383
01:24:55,510 --> 01:24:52,639
outrageously no impossible

2384
01:24:57,669 --> 01:24:55,520
it's their job to look at the impossible

2385
01:24:58,950 --> 01:24:57,679
to see if there's any possibilities in

2386
01:25:01,830 --> 01:24:58,960
that

2387
01:25:05,430 --> 01:25:01,840
um so no i haven't i haven't personally

2388
01:25:07,270 --> 01:25:05,440
heard that and i'm so i'm the worst read

2389
01:25:09,750 --> 01:25:07,280
person in ufology

2390
01:25:11,590 --> 01:25:09,760
i have not read ross's book

2391
01:25:13,669 --> 01:25:11,600
i need to do that i'm working on another

2392
01:25:16,470 --> 01:25:13,679
book now by

2393
01:25:19,030 --> 01:25:16,480
jason reza giorgiani he wrote a book

2394
01:25:21,350 --> 01:25:19,040
called closer encounters

2395
01:25:23,910 --> 01:25:21,360
and he was trying to put together

2396
01:25:26,470 --> 01:25:23,920
uh the entire story and i believe he was

2397
01:25:28,629 --> 01:25:26,480
interviewed by nickianna jones

2398
01:25:30,390 --> 01:25:28,639
several times to try to explain what he

2399
01:25:32,629 --> 01:25:30,400
believed was happening

2400
01:25:35,110 --> 01:25:32,639
and all these possibilities are valid to

2401
01:25:37,270 --> 01:25:35,120
me because no one has the real answer

2402
01:25:38,870 --> 01:25:37,280
absolutely and jim simivan himself said

2403
01:25:40,709 --> 01:25:38,880
hey you know we don't have the real

2404
01:25:43,270 --> 01:25:40,719
answer we got a lot of answers and some

2405
01:25:45,510 --> 01:25:43,280
of them are classified but you know the

2406
01:25:47,189 --> 01:25:45,520
full the full breadth of the phenomenon

2407
01:25:49,270 --> 01:25:47,199
includes

2408
01:25:50,550 --> 01:25:49,280
the uh disturbing aspects like at

2409
01:25:52,709 --> 01:25:50,560
skinwalker

2410
01:25:55,830 --> 01:25:52,719
the astral celestial aspects of

2411
01:25:58,390 --> 01:25:55,840
palladians and upturns and lions and

2412
01:25:59,510 --> 01:25:58,400
then there's like the nordics who are

2413
01:26:03,189 --> 01:25:59,520
like us

2414
01:26:05,030 --> 01:26:03,199
yeah and other corporeal beings like um

2415
01:26:07,030 --> 01:26:05,040
like anjali uh

2416
01:26:09,590 --> 01:26:07,040
uh has encounters with

2417
01:26:11,750 --> 01:26:09,600
the the mantis i've had encounters with

2418
01:26:14,070 --> 01:26:11,760
more of the what i call sarian or

2419
01:26:16,470 --> 01:26:14,080
reptilian type beings so there's there's

2420
01:26:18,470 --> 01:26:16,480
a full gamut of the experience

2421
01:26:19,910 --> 01:26:18,480
yeah that needs to be looked at

2422
01:26:22,070 --> 01:26:19,920
yeah and i only made that face because

2423
01:26:23,590 --> 01:26:22,080
the mantid thing always like weirds me

2424
01:26:25,910 --> 01:26:23,600
out um

2425
01:26:26,790 --> 01:26:25,920
because i've seen a hologram the first

2426
01:26:29,830 --> 01:26:26,800
like

2427
01:26:31,110 --> 01:26:29,840
awake sighting of a being that i had was

2428
01:26:33,430 --> 01:26:31,120
of this

2429
01:26:34,870 --> 01:26:33,440
mantid looking head i didn't notice the

2430
01:26:37,669 --> 01:26:34,880
body because i was just like zeroed in

2431
01:26:40,310 --> 01:26:37,679
on the face um but it almost looked like

2432
01:26:42,070 --> 01:26:40,320
a hologram so i'm like

2433
01:26:43,430 --> 01:26:42,080
did it send me one of its holograms or

2434
01:26:45,510 --> 01:26:43,440
did it not want to come visit in person

2435
01:26:47,189 --> 01:26:45,520
like is that what it is does it look

2436
01:26:48,390 --> 01:26:47,199
like that is it like some sort of weird

2437
01:26:51,110 --> 01:26:48,400
light being that looks like a hologram

2438
01:26:53,510 --> 01:26:51,120
to me and then it you know is physical

2439
01:26:55,590 --> 01:26:53,520
to some people and not to others so

2440
01:26:57,030 --> 01:26:55,600
i just don't understand the whole mantis

2441
01:26:59,910 --> 01:26:57,040
uh

2442
01:27:03,189 --> 01:26:59,920
um thing you know um

2443
01:27:07,750 --> 01:27:05,030
now this is an interesting

2444
01:27:10,229 --> 01:27:07,760
question um when you guys meet people

2445
01:27:12,950 --> 01:27:10,239
can you tell if they are experiencers

2446
01:27:15,669 --> 01:27:12,960
without being told they are experiencers

2447
01:27:18,790 --> 01:27:15,679
i definitely notice like like when i

2448
01:27:20,950 --> 01:27:18,800
meet somebody that's an experiencer um i

2449
01:27:23,110 --> 01:27:20,960
automatically get along with them but

2450
01:27:25,030 --> 01:27:23,120
because of the open-mindedness that

2451
01:27:26,870 --> 01:27:25,040
experiencers have but i'm not going to

2452
01:27:28,709 --> 01:27:26,880
be like oh wow you like to study ancient

2453
01:27:30,470 --> 01:27:28,719
religions too have you ever been

2454
01:27:31,669 --> 01:27:30,480
abducted like you know

2455
01:27:33,590 --> 01:27:31,679
i don't know

2456
01:27:36,229 --> 01:27:33,600
i know that they've had experiences with

2457
01:27:38,470 --> 01:27:36,239
other beings and to me

2458
01:27:40,390 --> 01:27:38,480
um when when people start talking about

2459
01:27:41,990 --> 01:27:40,400
spirit guides and um light beings and

2460
01:27:43,270 --> 01:27:42,000
all that stuff i'm like

2461
01:27:45,270 --> 01:27:43,280
you've probably been abducted like in my

2462
01:27:47,590 --> 01:27:45,280
head you know like you've probably

2463
01:27:48,950 --> 01:27:47,600
so um but what about you do you kind of

2464
01:27:50,870 --> 01:27:48,960
get like a little ping when you meet

2465
01:27:53,270 --> 01:27:50,880
another experiencer

2466
01:27:54,310 --> 01:27:53,280
i get um what i call

2467
01:27:56,709 --> 01:27:54,320
um

2468
01:27:58,390 --> 01:27:56,719
i feel like an aura of energy around me

2469
01:27:59,910 --> 01:27:58,400
not with experiences but with light

2470
01:28:02,310 --> 01:27:59,920
workers

2471
01:28:04,870 --> 01:28:02,320
so if i know someone is a light worker i

2472
01:28:05,990 --> 01:28:04,880
know it because i have this feeling of

2473
01:28:08,629 --> 01:28:06,000
this

2474
01:28:11,270 --> 01:28:08,639
are around me and an r around them

2475
01:28:13,189 --> 01:28:11,280
and i feel an instant infinite affinity

2476
01:28:15,669 --> 01:28:13,199
yes to that person

2477
01:28:17,750 --> 01:28:15,679
um i've not had that with experiences

2478
01:28:18,629 --> 01:28:17,760
per se

2479
01:28:20,950 --> 01:28:18,639
okay

2480
01:28:23,750 --> 01:28:20,960
and i feel that yeah yeah but in the

2481
01:28:24,870 --> 01:28:23,760
communities where i meet experiencers

2482
01:28:26,070 --> 01:28:24,880
um

2483
01:28:28,790 --> 01:28:26,080
for example

2484
01:28:31,350 --> 01:28:28,800
i was a member of cosmic empowerment a

2485
01:28:33,270 --> 01:28:31,360
meet up in charlotte north carolina

2486
01:28:35,350 --> 01:28:33,280
and uh i was a member of that and there

2487
01:28:37,430 --> 01:28:35,360
were experiences there i just knew there

2488
01:28:39,669 --> 01:28:37,440
were experiencers i mean you don't go to

2489
01:28:41,510 --> 01:28:39,679
something like cosmic empowerment

2490
01:28:43,189 --> 01:28:41,520
and talk about this phenomenon without

2491
01:28:44,709 --> 01:28:43,199
you know bringing something of that

2492
01:28:46,310 --> 01:28:44,719
experience with you and so i knew there

2493
01:28:47,590 --> 01:28:46,320
were experiences there

2494
01:28:49,590 --> 01:28:47,600
but what i

2495
01:28:52,149 --> 01:28:49,600
felt were the two light workers that

2496
01:28:54,390 --> 01:28:52,159
were there i knew exactly who they were

2497
01:28:55,990 --> 01:28:54,400
oh wow and uh i i mentioned that they

2498
01:28:56,870 --> 01:28:56,000
were light workers they were surprised

2499
01:28:59,189 --> 01:28:56,880
and

2500
01:29:00,790 --> 01:28:59,199
that makes sense

2501
01:29:03,510 --> 01:29:00,800
because people ask me if i can see auras

2502
01:29:05,750 --> 01:29:03,520
i'm like i get like um

2503
01:29:07,910 --> 01:29:05,760
like i know what color their aura is or

2504
01:29:09,510 --> 01:29:07,920
i know what they're always saying or

2505
01:29:12,790 --> 01:29:09,520
what it and what it's

2506
01:29:14,310 --> 01:29:12,800
like it's like uh i know what it's i

2507
01:29:16,470 --> 01:29:14,320
can't i don't it's not saying anything

2508
01:29:19,189 --> 01:29:16,480
obviously but i just know what it means

2509
01:29:21,830 --> 01:29:19,199
um and i'll get like a a color will pop

2510
01:29:24,550 --> 01:29:21,840
into my head but i don't see them like

2511
01:29:25,830 --> 01:29:24,560
visually but with other healers and

2512
01:29:26,790 --> 01:29:25,840
light workers

2513
01:29:28,390 --> 01:29:26,800
i see

2514
01:29:30,950 --> 01:29:28,400
like a white thing around them and like

2515
01:29:33,590 --> 01:29:30,960
you said an instant affinity for them

2516
01:29:35,270 --> 01:29:33,600
like you meet somebody else that you

2517
01:29:37,510 --> 01:29:35,280
know they're a healer whether they're an

2518
01:29:39,110 --> 01:29:37,520
experiencer or not they've experienced

2519
01:29:40,950 --> 01:29:39,120
something they're a healer and you're

2520
01:29:43,350 --> 01:29:40,960
like i just love this person like i

2521
01:29:45,189 --> 01:29:43,360
don't know why but i just automatically

2522
01:29:47,270 --> 01:29:45,199
have this like respect and love for this

2523
01:29:49,669 --> 01:29:47,280
person so i hope that answers your

2524
01:29:54,870 --> 01:29:53,669
uh walker sorry i forgot sorry i was i

2525
01:29:56,070 --> 01:29:54,880
was reading another one and trying to

2526
01:29:58,070 --> 01:29:56,080
talk so

2527
01:30:00,550 --> 01:29:58,080
um

2528
01:30:01,990 --> 01:30:00,560
another question from rachel says and

2529
01:30:04,310 --> 01:30:02,000
welcome back rachel thank you so much

2530
01:30:06,070 --> 01:30:04,320
for you know coming again

2531
01:30:08,070 --> 01:30:06,080
question for john what are john's

2532
01:30:10,229 --> 01:30:08,080
thoughts about the bledsoe encounters

2533
01:30:12,950 --> 01:30:10,239
more specifically is he familiar with

2534
01:30:15,350 --> 01:30:12,960
the lady and the healing techniques

2535
01:30:16,470 --> 01:30:15,360
using frequencies

2536
01:30:18,229 --> 01:30:16,480
so i am

2537
01:30:21,350 --> 01:30:18,239
i am familiar with the encounters with a

2538
01:30:23,590 --> 01:30:21,360
lady my wife had an encounter

2539
01:30:25,669 --> 01:30:23,600
she was not the white lady but a lady in

2540
01:30:28,070 --> 01:30:25,679
blue the blue lady

2541
01:30:29,910 --> 01:30:28,080
and a co-worker of mine at cia had

2542
01:30:31,990 --> 01:30:29,920
several encounters with a white lady his

2543
01:30:33,510 --> 01:30:32,000
name is michael he let me use his name

2544
01:30:35,270 --> 01:30:33,520
he's retired now

2545
01:30:37,750 --> 01:30:35,280
and he's an experiencer and he

2546
01:30:40,790 --> 01:30:37,760
experienced uh the white lady much like

2547
01:30:43,669 --> 01:30:40,800
the blessos experience the white lady

2548
01:30:45,910 --> 01:30:43,679
and there was a message conveyed to him

2549
01:30:47,669 --> 01:30:45,920
um and the message was

2550
01:30:48,550 --> 01:30:47,679
um

2551
01:30:51,270 --> 01:30:48,560
uh

2552
01:30:53,430 --> 01:30:51,280
it wasn't like a cataclysm but something

2553
01:30:57,030 --> 01:30:53,440
profound might be occurring

2554
01:30:58,790 --> 01:30:57,040
and he had the date 2026

2555
01:31:00,709 --> 01:30:58,800
um that something profound might be

2556
01:31:02,790 --> 01:31:00,719
occurring in 2026 so it will cause a

2557
01:31:05,510 --> 01:31:02,800
shift

2558
01:31:07,910 --> 01:31:05,520
in our uh in our world

2559
01:31:10,070 --> 01:31:07,920
it's not like a physical you know

2560
01:31:12,149 --> 01:31:10,080
magnetic pole shift but a shift in

2561
01:31:13,669 --> 01:31:12,159
consciousness a higher it's an upgrade

2562
01:31:14,870 --> 01:31:13,679
for all of us to go to higher

2563
01:31:16,629 --> 01:31:14,880
consciousness

2564
01:31:19,030 --> 01:31:16,639
and that some folks

2565
01:31:20,870 --> 01:31:19,040
may be left behind but not separated

2566
01:31:23,189 --> 01:31:20,880
it's not like the rapture

2567
01:31:24,709 --> 01:31:23,199
uh yeah christian theology is that like

2568
01:31:26,310 --> 01:31:24,719
we'll be on this world and all of a

2569
01:31:28,390 --> 01:31:26,320
sudden we realize

2570
01:31:30,790 --> 01:31:28,400
um that hey this is the world i've

2571
01:31:32,950 --> 01:31:30,800
always wanted it's so lovely here it's

2572
01:31:35,189 --> 01:31:32,960
it's full of peace now full of love

2573
01:31:36,070 --> 01:31:35,199
all these conflicts have been

2574
01:31:38,709 --> 01:31:36,080
like

2575
01:31:40,550 --> 01:31:38,719
have passed away and the other world

2576
01:31:42,229 --> 01:31:40,560
will still be in what we're experiencing

2577
01:31:45,270 --> 01:31:42,239
now

2578
01:31:46,629 --> 01:31:45,280
turmoil and conflict um like that and

2579
01:31:48,550 --> 01:31:46,639
that that

2580
01:31:50,070 --> 01:31:48,560
they wouldn't know that they shifted and

2581
01:31:52,149 --> 01:31:50,080
and we would feel like this was just a

2582
01:31:53,590 --> 01:31:52,159
natural progression yeah um that's the

2583
01:31:56,709 --> 01:31:53,600
message he got

2584
01:31:58,390 --> 01:31:56,719
um that makes sense there's a path there

2585
01:32:01,590 --> 01:31:58,400
going both ways i didn't get the first

2586
01:32:04,790 --> 01:32:01,600
part of that question but i answered the

2587
01:32:06,149 --> 01:32:04,800
i think it was about bledsoe um yes oh

2588
01:32:07,189 --> 01:32:06,159
yes thank you

2589
01:32:08,629 --> 01:32:07,199
what are your thoughts about the blood

2590
01:32:11,270 --> 01:32:08,639
zone well uh

2591
01:32:13,270 --> 01:32:11,280
i was offered to uh be introduced to the

2592
01:32:15,110 --> 01:32:13,280
bledsoes uh

2593
01:32:16,790 --> 01:32:15,120
through um

2594
01:32:18,870 --> 01:32:16,800
the person we know in common and that's

2595
01:32:21,990 --> 01:32:18,880
jim semivan

2596
01:32:24,310 --> 01:32:22,000
but uh i i would love to talk to them um

2597
01:32:25,990 --> 01:32:24,320
but i've not met them

2598
01:32:27,910 --> 01:32:26,000
yeah they seem very interesting i love

2599
01:32:30,070 --> 01:32:27,920
their um i love their podcasts like

2600
01:32:31,910 --> 01:32:30,080
they're funny but then they talk about

2601
01:32:32,870 --> 01:32:31,920
serious things and make light humor of

2602
01:32:35,270 --> 01:32:32,880
it and

2603
01:32:36,870 --> 01:32:35,280
just the whole story about it um

2604
01:32:38,950 --> 01:32:36,880
just their story is just very

2605
01:32:41,430 --> 01:32:38,960
interesting and compelling because the

2606
01:32:42,629 --> 01:32:41,440
way it's happened to like the whole

2607
01:32:44,870 --> 01:32:42,639
family and that's that's another

2608
01:32:47,189 --> 01:32:44,880
commonality too that i you know with

2609
01:32:48,950 --> 01:32:47,199
experiencers i wish my grandma was still

2610
01:32:51,270 --> 01:32:48,960
alive because with all her

2611
01:32:52,709 --> 01:32:51,280
um experiences with the spirit world i

2612
01:32:54,550 --> 01:32:52,719
want to ask her

2613
01:32:56,070 --> 01:32:54,560
you know um

2614
01:32:57,990 --> 01:32:56,080
have you ever seen

2615
01:33:01,110 --> 01:32:58,000
you know like the ufo question

2616
01:33:02,390 --> 01:33:01,120
but when i saw mine um my when i had my

2617
01:33:04,229 --> 01:33:02,400
experience

2618
01:33:05,270 --> 01:33:04,239
and i came back and told my grandpa he

2619
01:33:07,430 --> 01:33:05,280
was just like you're not supposed to be

2620
01:33:08,870 --> 01:33:07,440
outside like he totally ignored

2621
01:33:10,229 --> 01:33:08,880
like he thought he was he was gonna get

2622
01:33:11,350 --> 01:33:10,239
in trouble because he was the one

2623
01:33:12,629 --> 01:33:11,360
sleeping on the couch that shouldn't

2624
01:33:14,070 --> 01:33:12,639
should have heard me sneaking out to go

2625
01:33:15,669 --> 01:33:14,080
outside to look at this guy

2626
01:33:17,350 --> 01:33:15,679
so um he thought he was gonna get in

2627
01:33:19,510 --> 01:33:17,360
trouble and it was like basically didn't

2628
01:33:21,270 --> 01:33:19,520
listen to anything i said

2629
01:33:24,229 --> 01:33:21,280
um

2630
01:33:25,830 --> 01:33:24,239
yeah it seems like uh i i like that so

2631
01:33:27,669 --> 01:33:25,840
many people have questions different

2632
01:33:28,790 --> 01:33:27,679
questions tonight for you

2633
01:33:31,350 --> 01:33:28,800
um

2634
01:33:33,110 --> 01:33:31,360
because it kind of is like uh

2635
01:33:36,390 --> 01:33:33,120
it's letting i feel like it's not so

2636
01:33:38,310 --> 01:33:36,400
like rigid like you know um as some

2637
01:33:39,110 --> 01:33:38,320
other questions people have had

2638
01:33:42,229 --> 01:33:39,120
so

2639
01:33:43,990 --> 01:33:42,239
um this is one about your decor

2640
01:33:46,870 --> 01:33:44,000
so so we've talked about everything

2641
01:33:49,510 --> 01:33:46,880
tonight guys from the cure in 80s music

2642
01:33:54,629 --> 01:33:52,629
his his decorations uh

2643
01:33:56,470 --> 01:33:54,639
is there any significance about the wolf

2644
01:33:58,229 --> 01:33:56,480
over your shoulder um

2645
01:34:00,229 --> 01:33:58,239
in your on your wall

2646
01:34:03,990 --> 01:34:00,239
well they're uh in south uh in the

2647
01:34:05,510 --> 01:34:04,000
southwest especially in uh arizona uh

2648
01:34:08,149 --> 01:34:05,520
southern arizona

2649
01:34:10,790 --> 01:34:08,159
we have coyotes and that is a coyote

2650
01:34:12,229 --> 01:34:10,800
and when you see coyotes at night

2651
01:34:14,390 --> 01:34:12,239
first of all if you see a cowardly a

2652
01:34:16,470 --> 01:34:14,400
night i wouldn't go there

2653
01:34:19,270 --> 01:34:16,480
but coyotes are known to

2654
01:34:21,910 --> 01:34:19,280
arch their necks up toward the sky and

2655
01:34:23,270 --> 01:34:21,920
howl or yep they actually yip oh yeah

2656
01:34:24,950 --> 01:34:23,280
it's super weird yeah when you're first

2657
01:34:26,870 --> 01:34:24,960
here as you know

2658
01:34:29,030 --> 01:34:26,880
having lived in arizona

2659
01:34:30,790 --> 01:34:29,040
so that is a coyote and it's just one of

2660
01:34:33,110 --> 01:34:30,800
the decorative things we have the other

2661
01:34:35,750 --> 01:34:33,120
is cocopelli you probably have seen

2662
01:34:38,550 --> 01:34:35,760
coca-pellis around it's uh oh my gosh

2663
01:34:41,030 --> 01:34:38,560
coca-cola is everywhere yeah out there

2664
01:34:43,350 --> 01:34:41,040
playing a flute um with an arch back

2665
01:34:46,870 --> 01:34:43,360
playing a flute yeah and it's part of

2666
01:34:48,390 --> 01:34:46,880
the hopi culture cocopeli having led the

2667
01:34:50,950 --> 01:34:48,400
hopi people

2668
01:34:53,030 --> 01:34:50,960
um to their home

2669
01:34:55,350 --> 01:34:53,040
it's interesting they followed cocopelli

2670
01:34:57,590 --> 01:34:55,360
and his flute playing it's

2671
01:35:00,149 --> 01:34:57,600
it's uh i guess i

2672
01:35:01,910 --> 01:35:00,159
i it's sort of like the pie piper in a

2673
01:35:03,669 --> 01:35:01,920
way you know

2674
01:35:04,790 --> 01:35:03,679
that uh it's part of their culture

2675
01:35:06,709 --> 01:35:04,800
there's a lot of stories like that

2676
01:35:08,950 --> 01:35:06,719
though a native tradition like my dad's

2677
01:35:11,430 --> 01:35:08,960
uh the tribe in arizona called odom

2678
01:35:14,550 --> 01:35:11,440
there's a being called iatoy and he

2679
01:35:16,550 --> 01:35:14,560
led people out of the sacred mountain

2680
01:35:19,189 --> 01:35:16,560
and that's where we came from basically

2681
01:35:22,870 --> 01:35:19,199
out of the earth tonight

2682
01:35:25,910 --> 01:35:22,880
i have a story about that real quick um

2683
01:35:28,070 --> 01:35:25,920
so one one of my beliefs um that i've

2684
01:35:30,390 --> 01:35:28,080
been researching was atlantis and the

2685
01:35:32,390 --> 01:35:30,400
other was another

2686
01:35:35,030 --> 01:35:32,400
uh civilization co-existing with

2687
01:35:37,510 --> 01:35:35,040
atlantis called lumeria yes whereas

2688
01:35:38,790 --> 01:35:37,520
atlanteans seem to have been very rigid

2689
01:35:39,830 --> 01:35:38,800
in their

2690
01:35:42,390 --> 01:35:39,840
outlook

2691
01:35:44,470 --> 01:35:42,400
they're not militaristic but very rigid

2692
01:35:46,950 --> 01:35:44,480
um not very flexible in their outlook

2693
01:35:49,510 --> 01:35:46,960
they were highly technological

2694
01:35:51,350 --> 01:35:49,520
and the lumerians were more like more

2695
01:35:53,830 --> 01:35:51,360
spiritual i have heard this the

2696
01:35:56,550 --> 01:35:53,840
atlanteans were a patriarchal society

2697
01:35:57,990 --> 01:35:56,560
lumerians were matriarchal

2698
01:36:01,750 --> 01:35:58,000
and that

2699
01:36:03,590 --> 01:36:01,760
and come out through qhht sessions

2700
01:36:05,510 --> 01:36:03,600
by various practitioners that seems to

2701
01:36:07,510 --> 01:36:05,520
be a common story

2702
01:36:09,350 --> 01:36:07,520
about the lumerians having something

2703
01:36:11,430 --> 01:36:09,360
called the red crystal

2704
01:36:12,790 --> 01:36:11,440
that had healing properties and the

2705
01:36:15,189 --> 01:36:12,800
atlanteans

2706
01:36:18,070 --> 01:36:15,199
having some kind of virus

2707
01:36:20,229 --> 01:36:18,080
and they wanted to get this crystal

2708
01:36:22,229 --> 01:36:20,239
and in order to get the crystal the

2709
01:36:25,189 --> 01:36:22,239
atlanteans then

2710
01:36:27,030 --> 01:36:25,199
practically like destroyed the lumerians

2711
01:36:29,990 --> 01:36:27,040
and the lumerians had to

2712
01:36:32,229 --> 01:36:30,000
like hide from the atlanteans

2713
01:36:34,310 --> 01:36:32,239
um and the atlanteans later

2714
01:36:36,229 --> 01:36:34,320
you know um

2715
01:36:37,669 --> 01:36:36,239
evolved into

2716
01:36:43,189 --> 01:36:37,679
like um

2717
01:36:45,750 --> 01:36:43,199
like a rigid patriarchal society

2718
01:36:48,550 --> 01:36:45,760
uh very technologically oriented whereas

2719
01:36:50,950 --> 01:36:48,560
the lumerians um were more spiritually

2720
01:36:53,910 --> 01:36:50,960
oriented and so when the marines

2721
01:36:55,910 --> 01:36:53,920
scattered through east asia and down the

2722
01:36:59,669 --> 01:36:55,920
land bridge to barren straits and into

2723
01:37:01,910 --> 01:36:59,679
latin america and to in polynesia um

2724
01:37:04,390 --> 01:37:01,920
their outlook was more

2725
01:37:06,950 --> 01:37:04,400
spiritual yes and that's why you know

2726
01:37:10,070 --> 01:37:06,960
like you said uh the uh tohono odom

2727
01:37:11,910 --> 01:37:10,080
tribe and other stories from our

2728
01:37:15,830 --> 01:37:11,920
indigenous native peoples

2729
01:37:16,709 --> 01:37:15,840
they're more tuned into like nature

2730
01:37:18,310 --> 01:37:16,719
they

2731
01:37:20,149 --> 01:37:18,320
have more

2732
01:37:22,390 --> 01:37:20,159
affinity toward

2733
01:37:23,510 --> 01:37:22,400
understanding the divinity of everything

2734
01:37:25,910 --> 01:37:23,520
in nature

2735
01:37:29,109 --> 01:37:25,920
whereas the atlanteans were more like

2736
01:37:31,109 --> 01:37:29,119
nuts and bolts weapons yeah yeah and

2737
01:37:33,109 --> 01:37:31,119
that we're more like influenced by

2738
01:37:35,030 --> 01:37:33,119
atlanteans and the lumerians are more on

2739
01:37:37,910 --> 01:37:35,040
the western hemisphere

2740
01:37:40,070 --> 01:37:37,920
and the indigenous populations so

2741
01:37:42,870 --> 01:37:40,080
that's one of the

2742
01:37:45,669 --> 01:37:42,880
theories hypotheses about

2743
01:37:47,590 --> 01:37:45,679
our origins and what it might have been

2744
01:37:49,350 --> 01:37:47,600
ancient civilizations here

2745
01:37:51,669 --> 01:37:49,360
but if you look at

2746
01:37:54,390 --> 01:37:51,679
sarah brexman cosmi was

2747
01:37:55,189 --> 01:37:54,400
a qhc level 3 practitioner

2748
01:37:58,709 --> 01:37:55,199
who

2749
01:38:02,390 --> 01:38:01,590
julia the the daughter of dolores cannon

2750
01:38:05,830 --> 01:38:02,400
and

2751
01:38:06,790 --> 01:38:05,840
together you know when they do these qhd

2752
01:38:09,669 --> 01:38:06,800
sessions

2753
01:38:10,790 --> 01:38:09,679
with clients they come up with the same

2754
01:38:13,590 --> 01:38:10,800
story

2755
01:38:16,950 --> 01:38:13,600
people who have absolutely no background

2756
01:38:20,390 --> 01:38:16,960
no knowledge no interest in ufos uaps or

2757
01:38:23,109 --> 01:38:20,400
ancient civilizations under qhht they've

2758
01:38:25,750 --> 01:38:23,119
been telling the exact same story and

2759
01:38:27,990 --> 01:38:25,760
she shared this story

2760
01:38:30,870 --> 01:38:28,000
at the star works usa conference that i

2761
01:38:32,310 --> 01:38:30,880
attended sponsored by jack valet and

2762
01:38:34,790 --> 01:38:32,320
paula harris

2763
01:38:36,950 --> 01:38:34,800
and it's so amazing that um

2764
01:38:40,550 --> 01:38:36,960
uh you know there was this like common

2765
01:38:43,590 --> 01:38:40,560
story that is sort of like part of our

2766
01:38:45,750 --> 01:38:43,600
uh makeup or the hidden history that

2767
01:38:48,229 --> 01:38:45,760
gets passed on

2768
01:38:49,990 --> 01:38:48,239
uh through maybe various incarnations

2769
01:38:52,229 --> 01:38:50,000
that we have right

2770
01:38:54,709 --> 01:38:52,239
about this story and to me it makes a

2771
01:38:56,870 --> 01:38:54,719
lot of sense so yeah

2772
01:38:59,350 --> 01:38:56,880
like the eastern way of thinking the

2773
01:39:02,070 --> 01:38:59,360
eastern religions way and plus the more

2774
01:39:04,310 --> 01:39:02,080
dogmatic western religion way of

2775
01:39:06,550 --> 01:39:04,320
of thinking

2776
01:39:07,830 --> 01:39:06,560
absolutely and yeah that makes a lot of

2777
01:39:09,830 --> 01:39:07,840
sense because i've heard similar things

2778
01:39:11,430 --> 01:39:09,840
about the two civilizations

2779
01:39:15,030 --> 01:39:11,440
but guys i'm sorry if i'm not going to

2780
01:39:16,870 --> 01:39:15,040
get to everybody's questions tonight um

2781
01:39:19,669 --> 01:39:16,880
because we are coming up on like almost

2782
01:39:20,950 --> 01:39:19,679
an hour and 40 minutes i saw a question

2783
01:39:23,750 --> 01:39:20,960
um

2784
01:39:25,510 --> 01:39:23,760
we'll do one more if that's okay that's

2785
01:39:26,870 --> 01:39:25,520
fine i'm here as long as you want me oh

2786
01:39:28,550 --> 01:39:26,880
okay

2787
01:39:30,470 --> 01:39:28,560
everybody i feel like people are asking

2788
01:39:31,350 --> 01:39:30,480
you questions they wanted to ask you

2789
01:39:36,149 --> 01:39:31,360
um

2790
01:39:38,310 --> 01:39:36,159
marco's question

2791
01:39:40,229 --> 01:39:38,320
okay um question from

2792
01:39:42,070 --> 01:39:40,239
let me just put it up question from

2793
01:39:44,229 --> 01:39:42,080
kryptos conundrum what are the things

2794
01:39:46,950 --> 01:39:44,239
that stand out the most

2795
01:39:48,870 --> 01:39:46,960
um do you mean like in general

2796
01:39:51,030 --> 01:39:48,880
or um

2797
01:39:52,950 --> 01:39:51,040
can you clarify the question for me or

2798
01:39:55,669 --> 01:39:52,960
do you understand what he's saying

2799
01:39:58,310 --> 01:39:55,679
um yes i'll just give a brief rundown of

2800
01:40:00,070 --> 01:39:58,320
my take on kryptos conundrum first of

2801
01:40:02,390 --> 01:40:00,080
all um you have to realize that it is

2802
01:40:05,430 --> 01:40:02,400
fiction it's a fictionalized account

2803
01:40:09,430 --> 01:40:05,440
oh okay all right chase brandon

2804
01:40:11,189 --> 01:40:09,440
um he uh saw the actual files

2805
01:40:12,550 --> 01:40:11,199
of roswell

2806
01:40:13,910 --> 01:40:12,560
in the historical intelligence

2807
01:40:16,310 --> 01:40:13,920
collection

2808
01:40:19,350 --> 01:40:16,320
and based on what he saw

2809
01:40:22,709 --> 01:40:19,360
he confirmed that there was a craft and

2810
01:40:24,229 --> 01:40:22,719
there were non-human bodies recovered

2811
01:40:26,950 --> 01:40:24,239
from that craft

2812
01:40:29,669 --> 01:40:26,960
and the cia knows about it

2813
01:40:32,390 --> 01:40:29,679
that's the core of the story what he did

2814
01:40:35,430 --> 01:40:32,400
was when he investigated it

2815
01:40:40,870 --> 01:40:37,910
researched it for himself

2816
01:40:43,830 --> 01:40:40,880
it's an informed research but he had to

2817
01:40:45,669 --> 01:40:43,840
cast it into a fictional form

2818
01:40:48,149 --> 01:40:45,679
what he did was

2819
01:40:49,510 --> 01:40:48,159
pretty much confirm what i've said about

2820
01:40:54,550 --> 01:40:49,520
atlanteans

2821
01:40:57,030 --> 01:40:54,560
input into the way we turned out

2822
01:40:58,070 --> 01:40:57,040
and and that um

2823
01:41:00,470 --> 01:40:58,080
humans

2824
01:41:02,629 --> 01:41:00,480
are more recent and the phenomenon we're

2825
01:41:04,470 --> 01:41:02,639
seeing the beings that are here

2826
01:41:07,350 --> 01:41:04,480
trying to interact with us

2827
01:41:08,950 --> 01:41:07,360
have been here a lot longer than humans

2828
01:41:10,629 --> 01:41:08,960
have and they may have been conflicts

2829
01:41:12,709 --> 01:41:10,639
among them

2830
01:41:14,070 --> 01:41:12,719
and the humans

2831
01:41:16,709 --> 01:41:14,080
evolved

2832
01:41:19,189 --> 01:41:16,719
and certain humans were selected from

2833
01:41:22,229 --> 01:41:19,199
way back

2834
01:41:25,030 --> 01:41:22,239
like a long time ago like tens if

2835
01:41:26,950 --> 01:41:25,040
thousands of years ago

2836
01:41:29,030 --> 01:41:26,960
and

2837
01:41:31,750 --> 01:41:29,040
i don't know if the word seated is right

2838
01:41:33,990 --> 01:41:31,760
but certain humans were more elevated in

2839
01:41:37,350 --> 01:41:34,000
their dna than other humans

2840
01:41:41,669 --> 01:41:37,360
and that this elevation of dna um

2841
01:41:45,350 --> 01:41:43,830
they were more tuned into the phenomenon

2842
01:41:47,590 --> 01:41:45,360
and they were receiving messages from

2843
01:41:50,950 --> 01:41:47,600
the phenomenon so his main character dr

2844
01:41:53,270 --> 01:41:50,960
jonathan chalmers a cia officer

2845
01:41:55,990 --> 01:41:53,280
was receiving messages because he was

2846
01:41:58,709 --> 01:41:56,000
part of that bloodline of

2847
01:42:00,870 --> 01:41:58,719
enhanced humans from way back in his

2848
01:42:03,590 --> 01:42:00,880
generations

2849
01:42:04,550 --> 01:42:03,600
and that he realized dr thomas did in

2850
01:42:06,950 --> 01:42:04,560
the book

2851
01:42:08,950 --> 01:42:06,960
that there was this like possible

2852
01:42:10,470 --> 01:42:08,960
cataclysm that might happen on the earth

2853
01:42:12,070 --> 01:42:10,480
and he wanted to prepare

2854
01:42:13,030 --> 01:42:12,080
the earth for it

2855
01:42:16,550 --> 01:42:13,040
now

2856
01:42:19,189 --> 01:42:16,560
more on the phenomenon side of uaps

2857
01:42:20,430 --> 01:42:19,199
uh keeping in mind that chase brandon

2858
01:42:22,629 --> 01:42:20,440
retired in

2859
01:42:24,950 --> 01:42:22,639
2006 i believe

2860
01:42:29,270 --> 01:42:24,960
and he wrote the book probably starting

2861
01:42:31,750 --> 01:42:29,280
in 2010 and finished in 2012. um he said

2862
01:42:36,629 --> 01:42:34,470
you need to look under the water into

2863
01:42:37,669 --> 01:42:36,639
the seas because that's where the craft

2864
01:42:39,830 --> 01:42:37,679
are

2865
01:42:41,910 --> 01:42:39,840
they go into the sea and they come out

2866
01:42:44,310 --> 01:42:41,920
of the sea they fly in our ear and they

2867
01:42:46,550 --> 01:42:44,320
go back into the sea he said the key to

2868
01:42:48,470 --> 01:42:46,560
understanding what we're seeing is to

2869
01:42:51,189 --> 01:42:48,480
look under the water and the government

2870
01:42:53,590 --> 01:42:51,199
knows what's under the water

2871
01:42:55,270 --> 01:42:53,600
um and so that was the big takeaway for

2872
01:42:57,910 --> 01:42:55,280
me that he understood there were such

2873
01:42:59,109 --> 01:42:57,920
things as uh usos

2874
01:43:01,910 --> 01:42:59,119
under the water and that's what we're

2875
01:43:03,990 --> 01:43:01,920
really seeing and he also wrote uh long

2876
01:43:05,910 --> 01:43:04,000
before anyone knew about

2877
01:43:07,669 --> 01:43:05,920
the uss princeton and nimitz and the

2878
01:43:10,550 --> 01:43:07,679
fa-18s

2879
01:43:12,149 --> 01:43:10,560
he wrote about and his narrative

2880
01:43:13,750 --> 01:43:12,159
he wrote about an earlier time in the

2881
01:43:18,070 --> 01:43:13,760
50s where there's an aircraft carrier

2882
01:43:20,629 --> 01:43:18,080
with planes that encountered these craft

2883
01:43:23,189 --> 01:43:20,639
and so he had knowledge of what was

2884
01:43:24,870 --> 01:43:23,199
really going on but he had to cast it

2885
01:43:26,149 --> 01:43:24,880
into a way that

2886
01:43:27,830 --> 01:43:26,159
could make

2887
01:43:29,590 --> 01:43:27,840
the cia approved

2888
01:43:31,990 --> 01:43:29,600
so his book was completely approved by

2889
01:43:33,270 --> 01:43:32,000
cia and he told the story

2890
01:43:36,229 --> 01:43:33,280
behind the story

2891
01:43:38,550 --> 01:43:36,239
and on coast coast am he said

2892
01:43:40,550 --> 01:43:38,560
it's all in there it's fiction but it's

2893
01:43:42,390 --> 01:43:40,560
all in there you have to read

2894
01:43:44,709 --> 01:43:42,400
not between the lines but behind the

2895
01:43:47,270 --> 01:43:44,719
lines and he said in 2012 in his

2896
01:43:49,189 --> 01:43:47,280
interview with george nuri

2897
01:43:51,590 --> 01:43:49,199
it will come out

2898
01:43:54,709 --> 01:43:51,600
this story cannot be contained it will

2899
01:43:56,229 --> 01:43:54,719
come out and here we are in 2022.

2900
01:43:58,229 --> 01:43:56,239
yeah i have that book i just haven't

2901
01:43:59,510 --> 01:43:58,239
read it so it's like it's in my stack of

2902
01:44:00,950 --> 01:43:59,520
i want to read this you know what i mean

2903
01:44:02,310 --> 01:44:00,960
so now i feel like i have to read it

2904
01:44:03,910 --> 01:44:02,320
because it sounds really

2905
01:44:06,390 --> 01:44:03,920
really interesting yeah but you keep in

2906
01:44:08,149 --> 01:44:06,400
mind it's it's fiction oh yeah there's

2907
01:44:09,910 --> 01:44:08,159
no i would

2908
01:44:12,950 --> 01:44:09,920
give one thing away there's no

2909
01:44:15,669 --> 01:44:12,960
underground tunnel underneath cia

2910
01:44:17,270 --> 01:44:15,679
there's no train system underneath cia

2911
01:44:18,229 --> 01:44:17,280
i've been down in the basement down

2912
01:44:20,950 --> 01:44:18,239
there

2913
01:44:23,990 --> 01:44:20,960
here

2914
01:44:26,709 --> 01:44:24,000
under fort knox and the other thing is

2915
01:44:28,470 --> 01:44:26,719
that the dates for roswell he used the

2916
01:44:30,950 --> 01:44:28,480
gregorian calendar

2917
01:44:32,550 --> 01:44:30,960
so hey i thought roswell in july but he

2918
01:44:34,709 --> 01:44:32,560
wrote it in june because he had to use

2919
01:44:37,590 --> 01:44:34,719
the gregorian calendar

2920
01:44:39,030 --> 01:44:37,600
that's very clever yes because then see

2921
01:44:40,950 --> 01:44:39,040
he can write about roswell in a

2922
01:44:43,030 --> 01:44:40,960
fictional form he can tell you what

2923
01:44:45,510 --> 01:44:43,040
happened to roswell but not use the

2924
01:44:47,270 --> 01:44:45,520
actual dates so see i say okay it's

2925
01:44:48,950 --> 01:44:47,280
fiction you can say whatever you want

2926
01:44:51,109 --> 01:44:48,960
about roswell from what you

2927
01:44:53,430 --> 01:44:51,119
um discovered but since you've got the

2928
01:44:54,709 --> 01:44:53,440
dates wrong ah that's fine

2929
01:44:55,990 --> 01:44:54,719
well now i have to read it because my

2930
01:44:58,070 --> 01:44:56,000
husband's like you don't you don't read

2931
01:45:00,629 --> 01:44:58,080
any fiction books aren't all your books

2932
01:45:02,229 --> 01:45:00,639
reference books i'm like kind of

2933
01:45:05,830 --> 01:45:02,239
but i have a fiction book that's just

2934
01:45:06,709 --> 01:45:05,840
sitting there see the kryptos conundrum

2935
01:45:09,270 --> 01:45:06,719
um

2936
01:45:10,310 --> 01:45:09,280
spaghetti has a question joey's also his

2937
01:45:12,229 --> 01:45:10,320
name

2938
01:45:15,510 --> 01:45:12,239
has john ever tested his implant with

2939
01:45:18,149 --> 01:45:15,520
the rf radio and you know him and yeah

2940
01:45:20,390 --> 01:45:18,159
and perhaps it's emitting signals

2941
01:45:22,629 --> 01:45:20,400
um i have not tested my implant with any

2942
01:45:24,550 --> 01:45:22,639
kind of electronic device

2943
01:45:25,910 --> 01:45:24,560
um and i don't know if it's emitting

2944
01:45:27,750 --> 01:45:25,920
signals

2945
01:45:29,270 --> 01:45:27,760
but i do know that

2946
01:45:31,590 --> 01:45:29,280
like you say

2947
01:45:35,270 --> 01:45:31,600
sometimes you can hear it

2948
01:45:36,390 --> 01:45:35,280
working i can hear a crinkling sound in

2949
01:45:38,629 --> 01:45:36,400
my head

2950
01:45:40,790 --> 01:45:38,639
one time i woke up with a metallic

2951
01:45:42,629 --> 01:45:40,800
flapping sound on my right ear

2952
01:45:45,510 --> 01:45:42,639
just flapping away

2953
01:45:47,750 --> 01:45:45,520
i could actually feel the air move as i

2954
01:45:49,510 --> 01:45:47,760
was waking up something was there

2955
01:45:51,750 --> 01:45:49,520
coincident with one of my other

2956
01:45:54,470 --> 01:45:51,760
experiences of encountering these beings

2957
01:45:57,590 --> 01:45:54,480
in my dreams there was some flapping but

2958
01:45:59,910 --> 01:45:57,600
no i haven't i haven't tested with rf

2959
01:46:02,950 --> 01:45:59,920
yeah the dream world and people's dreams

2960
01:46:06,310 --> 01:46:02,960
um the dreams of experiencers is

2961
01:46:08,229 --> 01:46:06,320
such a nut it's another topic that's uh

2962
01:46:09,910 --> 01:46:08,239
gets written off i think

2963
01:46:11,830 --> 01:46:09,920
you know what i mean because there's

2964
01:46:14,310 --> 01:46:11,840
dreams we're like yes i was researching

2965
01:46:15,830 --> 01:46:14,320
this before bed all day every day and i

2966
01:46:17,830 --> 01:46:15,840
had a dream about it but it wasn't weird

2967
01:46:19,510 --> 01:46:17,840
it didn't feel real because i knew that

2968
01:46:21,109 --> 01:46:19,520
where it was coming from and then

2969
01:46:23,350 --> 01:46:21,119
there's the ones where you have the

2970
01:46:27,430 --> 01:46:23,360
experience dream and you wake up with

2971
01:46:29,750 --> 01:46:27,440
either sick or with markings um whatever

2972
01:46:32,470 --> 01:46:29,760
hives weird feelings you know

2973
01:46:35,750 --> 01:46:32,480
all this stuff so it's that's another

2974
01:46:37,669 --> 01:46:35,760
route that i think gets overlooked a lot

2975
01:46:40,070 --> 01:46:37,679
i go to sleep with listening to and i

2976
01:46:43,189 --> 01:46:40,080
think on one of your questions asked

2977
01:46:45,590 --> 01:46:43,199
about if i use like listening to

2978
01:46:48,790 --> 01:46:45,600
frequencies chakra frequencies

2979
01:46:50,870 --> 01:46:48,800
so yeah you know like uh 432 hertz or

2980
01:46:51,990 --> 01:46:50,880
528

2981
01:46:54,470 --> 01:46:52,000
hurts

2982
01:46:55,430 --> 01:46:54,480
these sounds and also um

2983
01:46:57,830 --> 01:46:55,440
um

2984
01:46:59,270 --> 01:46:57,840
having uh the binaural experience of

2985
01:47:00,229 --> 01:46:59,280
having two frequencies very close

2986
01:47:01,910 --> 01:47:00,239
together

2987
01:47:04,149 --> 01:47:01,920
and then the subtraction of those two

2988
01:47:05,590 --> 01:47:04,159
frequencies are like two hertz four

2989
01:47:08,629 --> 01:47:05,600
hertz six hertz they're so close

2990
01:47:11,189 --> 01:47:08,639
together and they kind of resonate with

2991
01:47:12,070 --> 01:47:11,199
your brainwave frequencies they're very

2992
01:47:17,910 --> 01:47:12,080
very

2993
01:47:20,149 --> 01:47:17,920
from doing that

2994
01:47:24,629 --> 01:47:20,159
and so i would say experiences you know

2995
01:47:26,790 --> 01:47:24,639
if you go into a a tank a flotation tank

2996
01:47:28,470 --> 01:47:26,800
and remove your physical senses from

2997
01:47:30,950 --> 01:47:28,480
your experience and some people do this

2998
01:47:33,910 --> 01:47:30,960
chemically

2999
01:47:36,229 --> 01:47:33,920
mushrooms or whatever they use

3000
01:47:39,189 --> 01:47:36,239
but you're trying to separate your

3001
01:47:41,510 --> 01:47:39,199
conscious from your inner

3002
01:47:44,070 --> 01:47:41,520
consciousness and once you separate your

3003
01:47:45,350 --> 01:47:44,080
senses um you can have some remarkable

3004
01:47:47,270 --> 01:47:45,360
experiences

3005
01:47:50,070 --> 01:47:47,280
yes absolutely

3006
01:47:51,669 --> 01:47:50,080
yeah i do um we did a whole um we would

3007
01:47:53,750 --> 01:47:51,679
do journey work when i was doing the

3008
01:47:55,430 --> 01:47:53,760
priestess uh it was called pillars of

3009
01:47:57,590 --> 01:47:55,440
priestessing and

3010
01:48:00,310 --> 01:47:57,600
um we would do journey work and when i

3011
01:48:02,470 --> 01:48:00,320
first started doing it i was like

3012
01:48:05,270 --> 01:48:02,480
i mean there's certain um incense that

3013
01:48:07,270 --> 01:48:05,280
you burn that will like um sort of

3014
01:48:09,270 --> 01:48:07,280
trigger kind of like like people talk

3015
01:48:11,350 --> 01:48:09,280
about epigenetics but i feel like our

3016
01:48:13,109 --> 01:48:11,360
our soul has an epigenetic

3017
01:48:15,189 --> 01:48:13,119
or like an epi soul genetic you know

3018
01:48:16,790 --> 01:48:15,199
like on the things from last lifetime

3019
01:48:17,910 --> 01:48:16,800
get triggered in this lifetime and

3020
01:48:19,590 --> 01:48:17,920
there's probably like a better name for

3021
01:48:20,470 --> 01:48:19,600
it somebody probably knows the term but

3022
01:48:23,350 --> 01:48:20,480
um

3023
01:48:25,430 --> 01:48:23,360
it's uh like things like frankincense or

3024
01:48:27,030 --> 01:48:25,440
blue lotus and

3025
01:48:28,390 --> 01:48:27,040
um and actually blue lotus will get you

3026
01:48:29,830 --> 01:48:28,400
a little

3027
01:48:32,310 --> 01:48:29,840
you'll have fun with some blue lotus or

3028
01:48:34,070 --> 01:48:32,320
some buchu leaf you know don't listen to

3029
01:48:35,990 --> 01:48:34,080
me guys i'm sorry i'm not advocating

3030
01:48:38,070 --> 01:48:36,000
that you go burn these but

3031
01:48:39,830 --> 01:48:38,080
um a lot of people do like um they'll

3032
01:48:41,189 --> 01:48:39,840
like burn bay leaves for their

3033
01:48:42,229 --> 01:48:41,199
manifestation stuff and they'll be like

3034
01:48:43,590 --> 01:48:42,239
oh i should have opened the window for

3035
01:48:45,669 --> 01:48:43,600
that because a bailey full make you

3036
01:48:48,550 --> 01:48:45,679
light-headed too but but you know it's

3037
01:48:50,390 --> 01:48:48,560
in a lot of incense that people use for

3038
01:48:51,189 --> 01:48:50,400
vision questing or

3039
01:48:53,030 --> 01:48:51,199
you know

3040
01:48:54,790 --> 01:48:53,040
journey work or whatever you want to

3041
01:48:55,990 --> 01:48:54,800
call it but you can have these waking

3042
01:48:59,109 --> 01:48:56,000
experiences

3043
01:49:00,790 --> 01:48:59,119
um when you meditate enough

3044
01:49:03,430 --> 01:49:00,800
and and you can have almost like an

3045
01:49:05,590 --> 01:49:03,440
astral like i've had like one out like

3046
01:49:06,709 --> 01:49:05,600
awake i call it like a waking astral

3047
01:49:09,109 --> 01:49:06,719
travel

3048
01:49:10,709 --> 01:49:09,119
um because i was just sitting there

3049
01:49:13,189 --> 01:49:10,719
meditating like i was awake i was

3050
01:49:14,629 --> 01:49:13,199
sitting up on my meditation pillow

3051
01:49:17,270 --> 01:49:14,639
and i

3052
01:49:19,350 --> 01:49:17,280
had this crazy experience um

3053
01:49:21,510 --> 01:49:19,360
and when i came back like i couldn't

3054
01:49:23,430 --> 01:49:21,520
like walk it was super weird and it

3055
01:49:25,109 --> 01:49:23,440
wasn't like nothing was asleep like it's

3056
01:49:27,270 --> 01:49:25,119
a good meditation pillow like i've

3057
01:49:29,030 --> 01:49:27,280
meditated longer than that before and

3058
01:49:30,870 --> 01:49:29,040
nothing's gone to sleep

3059
01:49:32,550 --> 01:49:30,880
um it wasn't like like my foot fell

3060
01:49:34,229 --> 01:49:32,560
asleep it was like

3061
01:49:35,830 --> 01:49:34,239
like there was not a connection in my

3062
01:49:37,030 --> 01:49:35,840
between my brain and my body for a

3063
01:49:38,709 --> 01:49:37,040
little bit and it was actually very

3064
01:49:40,950 --> 01:49:38,719
scary so

3065
01:49:42,149 --> 01:49:40,960
um you can do it but uh

3066
01:49:43,189 --> 01:49:42,159
i'm not even gonna say be careful

3067
01:49:45,189 --> 01:49:43,199
because i think people should try it

3068
01:49:46,550 --> 01:49:45,199
anyways and it wasn't a bad thing like

3069
01:49:48,470 --> 01:49:46,560
obviously i can walk now and everything

3070
01:49:50,550 --> 01:49:48,480
connected again but it was just it was

3071
01:49:51,830 --> 01:49:50,560
very strange that it happened that was

3072
01:49:52,870 --> 01:49:51,840
the first time it happened without

3073
01:49:54,950 --> 01:49:52,880
anything

3074
01:49:57,750 --> 01:49:54,960
um without any medicine or plant

3075
01:49:59,589 --> 01:49:57,760
medicines or you know um i think i had

3076
01:50:00,870 --> 01:49:59,599
solfeggio's playing on my

3077
01:50:01,910 --> 01:50:00,880
noise-canceling headphones and that'll

3078
01:50:03,669 --> 01:50:01,920
do it

3079
01:50:05,910 --> 01:50:03,679
i have like tuning forks

3080
01:50:07,510 --> 01:50:05,920
um that my husband makes fun of me for

3081
01:50:08,470 --> 01:50:07,520
because he like walks in and i'll be

3082
01:50:13,070 --> 01:50:08,480
like

3083
01:50:16,550 --> 01:50:13,080
this this one is a

3084
01:50:18,149 --> 01:50:16,560
963 hertz so it's the upper chakras but

3085
01:50:19,669 --> 01:50:18,159
he's like he just like shakes his head

3086
01:50:21,189 --> 01:50:19,679
and walks away

3087
01:50:22,390 --> 01:50:21,199
i'll leave you with that he says you

3088
01:50:24,310 --> 01:50:22,400
know

3089
01:50:26,390 --> 01:50:24,320
um but yeah i was listening to those so

3090
01:50:27,669 --> 01:50:26,400
tones will totally take you somewhere um

3091
01:50:30,070 --> 01:50:27,679
if you try it

3092
01:50:31,350 --> 01:50:30,080
yeah i think music is a healing thing

3093
01:50:33,589 --> 01:50:31,360
and um

3094
01:50:34,950 --> 01:50:33,599
uh when i lived in charlotte i used to

3095
01:50:37,109 --> 01:50:34,960
go to like

3096
01:50:38,950 --> 01:50:37,119
sound healing

3097
01:50:41,750 --> 01:50:38,960
meetings and um

3098
01:50:44,310 --> 01:50:41,760
uh the instrument i loved was the digi

3099
01:50:46,709 --> 01:50:44,320
did you redo the australian instrument

3100
01:50:48,149 --> 01:50:46,719
played by the aboriginal peoples

3101
01:50:50,390 --> 01:50:48,159
and that one just sends me off the

3102
01:50:52,709 --> 01:50:50,400
planet i mean when i hear that i'm not

3103
01:50:54,950 --> 01:50:52,719
on the planet anymore so i think we all

3104
01:50:55,910 --> 01:50:54,960
tune into certain sounds that resonate

3105
01:50:57,109 --> 01:50:55,920
with us

3106
01:50:58,950 --> 01:50:57,119
absolutely

3107
01:51:01,990 --> 01:50:58,960
for me it's the drumming too because my

3108
01:51:03,669 --> 01:51:02,000
um my mentor she would play a drum

3109
01:51:06,149 --> 01:51:03,679
and this was in like covet time so it

3110
01:51:09,270 --> 01:51:06,159
was online it was online um pillars of

3111
01:51:11,510 --> 01:51:09,280
precincting and priestessing and she'd

3112
01:51:12,709 --> 01:51:11,520
play the drum in a in a certain way

3113
01:51:14,629 --> 01:51:12,719
where

3114
01:51:15,990 --> 01:51:14,639
if you let yourself

3115
01:51:18,149 --> 01:51:16,000
you're not here anymore it feels like

3116
01:51:20,149 --> 01:51:18,159
like everything around you dissolves so

3117
01:51:22,310 --> 01:51:20,159
that's the benefit of using sound in

3118
01:51:23,830 --> 01:51:22,320
your meditations and it also helps a lot

3119
01:51:25,990 --> 01:51:23,840
of people that can't just do like a

3120
01:51:27,030 --> 01:51:26,000
meditation that have like um that are

3121
01:51:28,790 --> 01:51:27,040
just starting like a lot of people like

3122
01:51:30,390 --> 01:51:28,800
oh i can't quiet my mind quite my mind

3123
01:51:32,149 --> 01:51:30,400
you know like if you have one that has

3124
01:51:34,149 --> 01:51:32,159
music or guided

3125
01:51:35,589 --> 01:51:34,159
or um like you said like a sound

3126
01:51:37,109 --> 01:51:35,599
resonates with you it'll get you there

3127
01:51:38,550 --> 01:51:37,119
there's there's a there's a type of

3128
01:51:40,390 --> 01:51:38,560
meditation for everybody you just have

3129
01:51:41,350 --> 01:51:40,400
to find it but i think people get turned

3130
01:51:43,510 --> 01:51:41,360
off because they think that they have to

3131
01:51:45,350 --> 01:51:43,520
turn off their thoughts completely

3132
01:51:46,950 --> 01:51:45,360
and that's kind of like a misconception

3133
01:51:48,870 --> 01:51:46,960
you just gotta let them pass like you're

3134
01:51:51,270 --> 01:51:48,880
not gonna stop thinking

3135
01:51:52,950 --> 01:51:51,280
initially you know um but

3136
01:51:54,709 --> 01:51:52,960
you just gotta like let the thought go

3137
01:51:56,870 --> 01:51:54,719
by like

3138
01:51:58,229 --> 01:51:56,880
so people have that um

3139
01:52:00,550 --> 01:51:58,239
i think it holds them back but if they

3140
01:52:02,149 --> 01:52:00,560
incorporate sound instruments sounds and

3141
01:52:05,270 --> 01:52:02,159
instruments and different types of music

3142
01:52:06,870 --> 01:52:05,280
then i think that they would get there

3143
01:52:08,790 --> 01:52:06,880
they would be able to have these

3144
01:52:11,030 --> 01:52:08,800
transcendental experiences without the

3145
01:52:14,229 --> 01:52:11,040
help of other things

3146
01:52:16,229 --> 01:52:14,239
benji who's awesome says why are so many

3147
01:52:17,990 --> 01:52:16,239
of us creative people musicians artists

3148
01:52:20,550 --> 01:52:18,000
writers painters etc attracted to the

3149
01:52:22,229 --> 01:52:20,560
phenomena and why do does it seem to

3150
01:52:24,790 --> 01:52:22,239
seek us out

3151
01:52:27,030 --> 01:52:24,800
well um i would say that the

3152
01:52:29,270 --> 01:52:27,040
those in the creative arts probably are

3153
01:52:31,030 --> 01:52:29,280
more right brain oriented

3154
01:52:33,510 --> 01:52:31,040
and so we know the right brain is more

3155
01:52:36,709 --> 01:52:33,520
about uh you know feelings visualization

3156
01:52:39,189 --> 01:52:36,719
uh intuition holistic thinking arts

3157
01:52:40,390 --> 01:52:39,199
imagination and again um like we were

3158
01:52:43,510 --> 01:52:40,400
talking about

3159
01:52:45,910 --> 01:52:44,390
isolate

3160
01:52:47,109 --> 01:52:45,920
your left brain

3161
01:52:48,390 --> 01:52:47,119
of your

3162
01:52:49,990 --> 01:52:48,400
sensory

3163
01:52:51,350 --> 01:52:50,000
physical senses

3164
01:52:54,070 --> 01:52:51,360
um your

3165
01:52:56,390 --> 01:52:54,080
consciousness and go more toward your

3166
01:52:59,030 --> 01:52:56,400
inner consciousness your inner self

3167
01:53:01,510 --> 01:52:59,040
um the the linear thinking the

3168
01:53:03,830 --> 01:53:01,520
mathematics the logical thinking and

3169
01:53:04,950 --> 01:53:03,840
just being obsessed with facts they go

3170
01:53:08,950 --> 01:53:04,960
away

3171
01:53:11,189 --> 01:53:08,960
uh and then you activate those other

3172
01:53:13,270 --> 01:53:11,199
parts of the brain that are more about

3173
01:53:14,790 --> 01:53:13,280
feelings and imagination

3174
01:53:18,149 --> 01:53:14,800
uh holistic

3175
01:53:21,030 --> 01:53:18,159
uh thinking arts and rhythm

3176
01:53:22,470 --> 01:53:21,040
and so i think that's the reason why

3177
01:53:24,870 --> 01:53:22,480
that uh you're attracted to this

3178
01:53:27,270 --> 01:53:24,880
phenomenon because the phenomenon is is

3179
01:53:29,270 --> 01:53:27,280
all about that it's all about

3180
01:53:31,589 --> 01:53:29,280
communicating with your inner self and

3181
01:53:33,109 --> 01:53:31,599
that's the way they communicate

3182
01:53:35,510 --> 01:53:33,119
yeah definitely and it brings you into

3183
01:53:37,750 --> 01:53:35,520
like a flow state so i know a guy um

3184
01:53:42,550 --> 01:53:37,760
named john actually and he plays his

3185
01:53:45,750 --> 01:53:42,560
guitar and then he ends up

3186
01:53:48,390 --> 01:53:45,760
seeing ufos and he he has a whole

3187
01:53:51,030 --> 01:53:48,400
channel and he talks to them but he to

3188
01:53:53,430 --> 01:53:51,040
get into that receptive state he plays

3189
01:53:55,589 --> 01:53:53,440
his guitar because that's his thing

3190
01:53:57,669 --> 01:53:55,599
so um i think that it like you know from

3191
01:53:59,990 --> 01:53:57,679
a very hippie and blue standpoint it

3192
01:54:02,470 --> 01:54:00,000
lifts your vibrations to a point

3193
01:54:04,709 --> 01:54:02,480
where you are more receptive and almost

3194
01:54:06,950 --> 01:54:04,719
like hyper aware but in a in an

3195
01:54:08,229 --> 01:54:06,960
energetic way yeah and sometimes

3196
01:54:10,149 --> 01:54:08,239
physical way because that's one of my

3197
01:54:12,149 --> 01:54:10,159
things is like you know you see this

3198
01:54:14,229 --> 01:54:12,159
being in your room or you have an

3199
01:54:15,589 --> 01:54:14,239
experience or you see a light in the sky

3200
01:54:17,510 --> 01:54:15,599
that just like shakes you for some

3201
01:54:19,270 --> 01:54:17,520
reason and you

3202
01:54:22,390 --> 01:54:19,280
go into this like almost like a panic

3203
01:54:24,310 --> 01:54:22,400
mode but or an excitement you know your

3204
01:54:25,990 --> 01:54:24,320
your adrenaline system kicks in and some

3205
01:54:27,270 --> 01:54:26,000
people i feel like don't leave that

3206
01:54:28,310 --> 01:54:27,280
behind

3207
01:54:29,669 --> 01:54:28,320
and

3208
01:54:31,350 --> 01:54:29,679
or it doesn't go all the way back to

3209
01:54:33,350 --> 01:54:31,360
normal so there they have this like you

3210
01:54:34,870 --> 01:54:33,360
know hyper sensitivity and hyper

3211
01:54:37,270 --> 01:54:34,880
awareness to things around them and it

3212
01:54:38,790 --> 01:54:37,280
trickles into like the energetic world

3213
01:54:41,589 --> 01:54:38,800
because sometimes it's like you can only

3214
01:54:44,070 --> 01:54:41,599
do so much with your body right so

3215
01:54:45,109 --> 01:54:44,080
so yes um

3216
01:54:47,669 --> 01:54:45,119
oh

3217
01:54:49,750 --> 01:54:47,679
okay um this is i think this will be our

3218
01:54:51,830 --> 01:54:49,760
final question because

3219
01:54:53,669 --> 01:54:51,840
i feel like we've had so many i've been

3220
01:54:55,270 --> 01:54:53,679
you've been very generous with your time

3221
01:54:56,950 --> 01:54:55,280
and i really appreciate it and we could

3222
01:54:58,070 --> 01:54:56,960
definitely ask you questions all night

3223
01:55:00,470 --> 01:54:58,080
so

3224
01:55:05,430 --> 01:55:02,629
are you familiar rachel i think is

3225
01:55:08,790 --> 01:55:05,440
talking about the tyler from um diana

3226
01:55:11,830 --> 01:55:10,550
so are you do you do you have any

3227
01:55:13,589 --> 01:55:11,840
knowledge about

3228
01:55:15,910 --> 01:55:13,599
like i said i'm the worst read in

3229
01:55:18,390 --> 01:55:15,920
ufology so i have not read american

3230
01:55:24,070 --> 01:55:18,400
cosmic i've heard about tyler d i

3231
01:55:30,149 --> 01:55:28,070
no that's tim taylor tyler d oh

3232
01:55:32,390 --> 01:55:30,159
okay so i have to say no i'm not

3233
01:55:36,310 --> 01:55:32,400
familiar with tyler d

3234
01:55:38,310 --> 01:55:36,320
um and i know people know his real name

3235
01:55:39,990 --> 01:55:38,320
but frequency healing is pretty much

3236
01:55:43,830 --> 01:55:40,000
where we're going with what we

3237
01:55:51,030 --> 01:55:47,350
i think sound is is key to understanding

3238
01:55:56,790 --> 01:55:55,030
and i'm very interested i believe in

3239
01:55:58,229 --> 01:55:56,800
frequency healing i believe in sound

3240
01:55:59,910 --> 01:55:58,239
healing

3241
01:56:02,310 --> 01:55:59,920
there was a woman in charlotte that i

3242
01:56:05,270 --> 01:56:02,320
used to like i said i used to attend

3243
01:56:06,149 --> 01:56:05,280
uh her sound healing therapy sessions

3244
01:56:08,229 --> 01:56:06,159
um

3245
01:56:11,510 --> 01:56:08,239
and what really does it for me is like

3246
01:56:14,550 --> 01:56:11,520
i'm dating myself but uh grateful dead

3247
01:56:16,709 --> 01:56:14,560
um they used to play these like hours

3248
01:56:18,149 --> 01:56:16,719
long they just go fly out somewhere they

3249
01:56:20,390 --> 01:56:18,159
will start a song and next thing you

3250
01:56:22,709 --> 01:56:20,400
know jerry garcia is

3251
01:56:24,390 --> 01:56:22,719
doing magic with his guitar and i just

3252
01:56:26,310 --> 01:56:24,400
sit there with my headphones on and i'm

3253
01:56:27,990 --> 01:56:26,320
not on the planet anymore i'm just like

3254
01:56:30,550 --> 01:56:28,000
yeah

3255
01:56:32,790 --> 01:56:30,560
so i think music is key and frequency

3256
01:56:35,589 --> 01:56:32,800
healing is key absolutely i do believe

3257
01:56:36,790 --> 01:56:35,599
that frequency healing can really um it

3258
01:56:40,229 --> 01:56:36,800
might

3259
01:56:41,030 --> 01:56:40,239
kind of rebalance things in your body

3260
01:56:44,390 --> 01:56:41,040
could

3261
01:56:45,910 --> 01:56:44,400
uh if there's dna that's damaged

3262
01:56:47,750 --> 01:56:45,920
it could like

3263
01:56:51,030 --> 01:56:47,760
attempt to fix that

3264
01:56:53,669 --> 01:56:51,040
and so yeah i i i don't know too much

3265
01:56:56,790 --> 01:56:53,679
about what tyler d specifically did

3266
01:56:58,790 --> 01:56:56,800
uh but i do believe in frequency healing

3267
01:57:01,109 --> 01:56:58,800
yeah same here and then back to the

3268
01:57:03,430 --> 01:57:01,119
ancients those uh the

3269
01:57:05,669 --> 01:57:03,440
the smaller three pyramids that were of

3270
01:57:07,830 --> 01:57:05,679
the three different types of granite

3271
01:57:09,510 --> 01:57:07,840
were supposed like supposedly you know i

3272
01:57:12,550 --> 01:57:09,520
guess people say they think that those

3273
01:57:14,229 --> 01:57:12,560
were sound healing chambers so

3274
01:57:16,870 --> 01:57:14,239
that could be we could talk about egypt

3275
01:57:18,950 --> 01:57:16,880
for another two hours but oh yeah um

3276
01:57:20,790 --> 01:57:18,960
i'm gonna cut it off now hang out for a

3277
01:57:22,950 --> 01:57:20,800
minute don't disappear i'm gonna thank

3278
01:57:24,550 --> 01:57:22,960
you backstage and i want to say thank

3279
01:57:27,189 --> 01:57:24,560
you to everybody that joined in the live

3280
01:57:29,030 --> 01:57:27,199
chat i see a lot of i see some new names

3281
01:57:31,030 --> 01:57:29,040
and i see some people that have been

3282
01:57:31,830 --> 01:57:31,040
here so thank you so much

3283
01:57:38,229 --> 01:57:31,840
uh

3284
01:57:39,830 --> 01:57:38,239
in the description do you have anything

3285
01:57:41,189 --> 01:57:39,840
else coming up john are you going to be

3286
01:57:43,030 --> 01:57:41,199
on anything

3287
01:57:45,830 --> 01:57:43,040
anywhere else that people should follow

3288
01:57:48,229 --> 01:57:45,840
you well i can say this um and i'm sure

3289
01:57:50,229 --> 01:57:48,239
he doesn't mind me saying this that

3290
01:57:52,390 --> 01:57:50,239
tomorrow i'll be interviewed by john

3291
01:57:55,350 --> 01:57:52,400
greenwald for the black hall oh very

3292
01:57:58,070 --> 01:57:55,360
cool and uh later this month i will be

3293
01:58:00,790 --> 01:57:58,080
on stage uh in phoenix oh with the

3294
01:58:03,830 --> 01:58:00,800
phoenix mufon organization um

3295
01:58:06,709 --> 01:58:03,840
it's a on stage q a

3296
01:58:08,470 --> 01:58:06,719
using my slides as a backdrop i gave

3297
01:58:10,709 --> 01:58:08,480
them my slides and said you know just

3298
01:58:12,229 --> 01:58:10,719
put up any slide you want and i'll talk

3299
01:58:14,070 --> 01:58:12,239
about it so

3300
01:58:15,589 --> 01:58:14,080
they'll be interviewing me on stage at

3301
01:58:18,790 --> 01:58:15,599
the phoenix mufon

3302
01:58:21,589 --> 01:58:18,800
that's on february 26th

3303
01:58:23,270 --> 01:58:21,599
and may have another interview with um

3304
01:58:25,589 --> 01:58:23,280
calling all beings

3305
01:58:27,350 --> 01:58:25,599
nice uh with dj demarco that's gonna be

3306
01:58:28,870 --> 01:58:27,360
a lot of fun um yeah they're they're all

3307
01:58:31,030 --> 01:58:28,880
all the cabbies are awesome people oh

3308
01:58:33,270 --> 01:58:31,040
they're they're fantastic and so i'm

3309
01:58:35,109 --> 01:58:33,280
gonna take a little break from that

3310
01:58:38,390 --> 01:58:35,119
afterwards and because i need to do what

3311
01:58:40,070 --> 01:58:38,400
i call my day job the co-war museums uh

3312
01:58:42,550 --> 01:58:40,080
there are three of them in the country

3313
01:58:44,950 --> 01:58:42,560
core uh organized societies

3314
01:58:47,350 --> 01:58:44,960
organizations and i'll be doing more

3315
01:58:49,189 --> 01:58:47,360
briefings related to my actual day job

3316
01:58:51,990 --> 01:58:49,199
at cia

3317
01:58:54,550 --> 01:58:52,000
very cool yeah and one of them uh

3318
01:58:55,910 --> 01:58:54,560
my brother-in-law john welch

3319
01:58:57,669 --> 01:58:55,920
he's a co-founder with one of the

3320
01:59:00,310 --> 01:58:57,679
co-work museums with

3321
01:59:03,270 --> 01:59:00,320
francis gary powers jr his father was

3322
01:59:05,430 --> 01:59:03,280
shot down on youtube and uh so i'm doing

3323
01:59:06,950 --> 01:59:05,440
a presentation for them

3324
01:59:09,109 --> 01:59:06,960
oh very cool i'm sure that that's all

3325
01:59:10,950 --> 01:59:09,119
interesting as well too so you have you

3326
01:59:12,790 --> 01:59:10,960
have your day job interesting stuff then

3327
01:59:14,629 --> 01:59:12,800
you have your ufo interesting stuff and

3328
01:59:16,950 --> 01:59:14,639
you have your spiritual interesting

3329
01:59:19,830 --> 01:59:16,960
stuff and yeah and do you have

3330
01:59:22,950 --> 01:59:19,840
astrologers in your community

3331
01:59:23,990 --> 01:59:22,960
um do you follow astrology at all

3332
01:59:30,390 --> 01:59:24,000
i do

3333
01:59:33,350 --> 01:59:30,400
somebody that is like astrology

3334
01:59:35,109 --> 01:59:33,360
only um i can do people's charts i do i

3335
01:59:37,270 --> 01:59:35,119
do them um it takes me a long time

3336
01:59:39,350 --> 01:59:37,280
because i don't do it a lot

3337
01:59:40,950 --> 01:59:39,360
so i've like like i've done people's

3338
01:59:42,149 --> 01:59:40,960
star charts um

3339
01:59:43,669 --> 01:59:42,159
and like typed them out they get like a

3340
01:59:45,589 --> 01:59:43,679
whole report when i do it because it's

3341
01:59:48,470 --> 01:59:45,599
like sure there's just i'll just leave

3342
01:59:50,790 --> 01:59:48,480
this with you um i'm son and cancer

3343
01:59:53,189 --> 01:59:50,800
uh my senate sign is sagittarius and i'm

3344
01:59:54,950 --> 01:59:53,199
my moon and leo you're pretty much send

3345
01:59:57,109 --> 01:59:54,960
me your chart because now i'm curious

3346
02:00:00,390 --> 01:59:57,119
yeah

3347
02:00:02,149 --> 02:00:00,400
you want your chart done i think uh my

3348
02:00:05,350 --> 02:00:02,159
wife is an astrologer she she's still in

3349
02:00:07,030 --> 02:00:05,360
my chart yeah okay very yeah i just want

3350
02:00:08,629 --> 02:00:07,040
to put that out because a lot of people

3351
02:00:10,070 --> 02:00:08,639
wondering you know why do you think the

3352
02:00:12,790 --> 02:00:10,080
way you do

3353
02:00:14,629 --> 02:00:12,800
and i believe in astrology by the way

3354
02:00:16,310 --> 02:00:14,639
i i do believe

3355
02:00:17,830 --> 02:00:16,320
in astrology and people say how do you

3356
02:00:20,310 --> 02:00:17,840
believe that and they go

3357
02:00:23,430 --> 02:00:20,320
well it's about because people are used

3358
02:00:25,270 --> 02:00:23,440
to like uh magazine astrology they all

3359
02:00:26,790 --> 02:00:25,280
yeah they're sunshine yeah and that's

3360
02:00:28,790 --> 02:00:26,800
nothing the sun sign is kind of like

3361
02:00:30,070 --> 02:00:28,800
your final form like

3362
02:00:31,430 --> 02:00:30,080
you know it's not going to resonate

3363
02:00:34,149 --> 02:00:31,440
because you have to take an account like

3364
02:00:35,270 --> 02:00:34,159
you said sun moon rising

3365
02:00:37,589 --> 02:00:35,280
and then

3366
02:00:39,510 --> 02:00:37,599
in within your chart there's the chirons

3367
02:00:41,990 --> 02:00:39,520
there's your planetary

3368
02:00:44,629 --> 02:00:42,000
placements what house is it in

3369
02:00:46,629 --> 02:00:44,639
um your north node your south there's a

3370
02:00:48,310 --> 02:00:46,639
lot more than just like what's your sign

3371
02:00:49,430 --> 02:00:48,320
you know what i mean exactly

3372
02:00:51,669 --> 02:00:49,440
yes and

3373
02:00:53,830 --> 02:00:51,679
you know we're 70 percent of water

3374
02:00:55,510 --> 02:00:53,840
and the tides uh on the oceans are

3375
02:00:57,030 --> 02:00:55,520
affected by the positions of the moon

3376
02:00:59,430 --> 02:00:57,040
and sun and all the other celestial

3377
02:01:00,390 --> 02:00:59,440
bodies pull on that water

3378
02:01:02,550 --> 02:01:00,400
and since

3379
02:01:03,270 --> 02:01:02,560
we are

3380
02:01:05,030 --> 02:01:03,280
we

3381
02:01:07,830 --> 02:01:05,040
are in an environment

3382
02:01:10,229 --> 02:01:07,840
uh within the fluids in our mother's

3383
02:01:13,189 --> 02:01:10,239
bodies there's water there too there's

3384
02:01:15,510 --> 02:01:13,199
fluid and it's all affected by

3385
02:01:18,310 --> 02:01:15,520
by the position of these celestial

3386
02:01:19,990 --> 02:01:18,320
bodies and that's why astrology works

3387
02:01:21,750 --> 02:01:20,000
yeah we'd be silly to think that it's

3388
02:01:23,669 --> 02:01:21,760
going to affect a whole ocean and planet

3389
02:01:26,550 --> 02:01:23,679
but not our tiny little

3390
02:01:28,310 --> 02:01:26,560
right water systems

3391
02:01:30,550 --> 02:01:28,320
well yeah if your wifi comes on and talk

3392
02:01:31,990 --> 02:01:30,560
about astrology she's always welcome

3393
02:01:33,430 --> 02:01:32,000
because i do have different types of

3394
02:01:35,350 --> 02:01:33,440
people on

3395
02:01:37,350 --> 02:01:35,360
like i have a paranormal guy coming on i

3396
02:01:38,310 --> 02:01:37,360
have a demonologist coming up in march

3397
02:01:41,030 --> 02:01:38,320
so

3398
02:01:42,629 --> 02:01:41,040
i talk to a lot of different anything um

3399
02:01:44,310 --> 02:01:42,639
interesting to me so which is almost

3400
02:01:45,830 --> 02:01:44,320
everything so

3401
02:01:48,070 --> 02:01:45,840
but yes thank you so much thanks to

3402
02:01:49,750 --> 02:01:48,080
everybody in the chat um i

3403
02:01:51,830 --> 02:01:49,760
i will post like what i have coming up

3404
02:01:53,350 --> 02:01:51,840
next on instagram probably tomorrow the

3405
02:01:54,470 --> 02:01:53,360
day after

3406
02:01:55,750 --> 02:01:54,480
and

3407
02:01:57,189 --> 02:01:55,760
if you're looking for ways to support

3408
02:01:58,629 --> 02:01:57,199
the channel go ahead and give a like

3409
02:02:00,470 --> 02:01:58,639
subscribe there's other ways in the

3410
02:02:01,510 --> 02:02:00,480
description to support me

3411
02:02:03,589 --> 02:02:01,520
um

3412
02:02:05,109 --> 02:02:03,599
and thank you for your time and if

3413
02:02:06,709 --> 02:02:05,119
you're listening to audio thank you so

3414
02:02:08,629 --> 02:02:06,719
much as well if you're here in person